[tei-council] Disambiguation of <ident> and <idno> (and also <gi>)

[Martin Holmes]

On 11-11-23 01:08 PM, Lou Burnard wrote:

>>> <idno>   should be used for labels which uniquely identify an object or
>>> concept in a formal cataloguing system such as a database or an RDF
>>> store, or in a distributed system such as the World Wide Web.
>
>
> This misses the crucial point that you can't have an<idno>  floating
> around in space. It has to be inside something for which it supplies the
> identifier.

I hadn't really grokked that before. So, trying again:

<idno>  should be used for labels which uniquely identify an object or
concept in a formal cataloguing system such as a database or an RDF
store, or in a distributed system such as the World Wide Web. <idno> 
must therefore appear inside the element for which it is supplying the 
identifying label.


However, I can imagine some possible confusion here. Could I not say:

<p>Jimmy's excellent article appears in <title level="m">Companion to 
Digital Literary Studies</title>, ISBN <idno 
type="isbn">978-1-4051-4864-1</idno>. </p>


Cheers,
Martin

> I think of it as being like xml:id, but using other rules.
> Though of course you could do something mad like
>
> <bibl xml:id="xyz">
> ...
> <idno type="xmlId">xyz</idno>
> </bibl>
>
> I suppose
>
>
>
>
>
>>      <p>   variable<ident>name</ident>   is declared here</p>
>>
>> makes sense, but
>>
>>     <p>   variable<idno>name</idno>   is declared here</p>
>>
>> means ??? supplies an ID for this para? anyway, wrong.
>>
>
> what he said.
>

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Martin Holmes
University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
(mholmes at uvic.ca)