[tei-council] repeating and typing tei:provenance

Gabriel Bodard gabriel.bodard at kcl.ac.uk
Mon Sep 26 06:32:55 EDT 2011


In this case, should I just go ahead and add att.typed to tei:provenance 
and commit it to SVN? The other changes discussed in that ticket refer 
to the guidelines only and have no schema implications.

Cheers,

G

On 2011-09-24 05:43, Laurent Romary wrote:
> This is a very good move with respect to this ticket. Please go ahead (and agree with Elena, I don't think we need a new FR).
> Laurent
>
> Le 23 sept. 2011 à 18:05, Pierazzo, Elena a écrit :
>
>> Hi Gabby,
>>
>> You have my blessing, in case you needed it. I don't think there is the
>> need of another FR as the possibility of allowing multiple<provenance>  is
>> contemplated within the initial description of the ticket.
>> Best
>> Elena
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/09/2011 16:55, "Bodard, Gabriel"<gabriel.bodard at kcl.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>
>>> Some Council members will already have seen the ticket posted by Lou a
>>> couple days ago (http://purl.com/TEI/FR/3411976) re the conflict between
>>> the definition of tei:provenance, "descriptive or other information
>>> concerning *a single identifiable episode* during the history of a
>>> manuscript" on the one hand, and on the other examples (including that
>>> at http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/MS.html#mshy) in
>>> which mutiple episodes are described in a single provenance.
>>>
>>> I pointed out, in support of the examples over the definition, that
>>> provenance includes among its possible children tei:listEvent, and that
>>> some projects have already used this to represent different episodes in
>>> a manuscript's history within a single tei:provenance.
>>>
>>> The consensus on this ticket however seems to be that the definition is
>>> correct, the examples should be emended, and multiple episodes should be
>>> represented by repeated, dated tei:provenance elements in tei:history.
>>> It has also been suggested that provenance is a specialization of
>>> tei"event, so the usage is fine.
>>>
>>> If that is the case, then I'd like to propose (does this need another
>>> ticket?) that as well as changes to the guidelines and correction of
>>> examples, the provenance element should allow att.typed (as event does),
>>> so that multiple provenances in the history of a single manuscript or
>>> object can be typed ("found", "moved", "observed", "lost", "destroyed",
>>> "restored" etc.), and looser subtypes can be used to differentiate
>>> between different kinds of loss, for example. (We were in the process of
>>> writing up a controlled set of values for tei:event/@type for the EpiDoc
>>> guidelines, with the intention of leaving @subtype unconstrained.)
>>>
>>> Does anyone object to this proposal? Should I put up a new FR ticket for
>>> it? I'd like to be able to let the EpiDoc community know what we've
>>> decided so it can be written into our ODD in advance of the next TEI
>>> release, if possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Gabby
>>>
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Dr Gabriel BODARD
(Research Associate in Digital Epigraphy)

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King's College London
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