[tei-council] captcha for the wiki?

[Martin Holmes]

Personally, I would be fine with blocking access to the Wiki to anyone 
who didn't know (and couldn't easily find out) what the only required 
element of teiHeader is. I don't think we have a queue of people with 
lots of expertise to contribute, but not the slightest familiarity with 
the first three tags in a TEI file.

Cheers,
Martin

On 11-03-22 01:40 PM, James Cummings wrote:
> On 22/03/11 20:15, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
>> Poor Piotr checks his feed reader more frequently than I do, meaning he
>> usually gets to undoing spam edits and blocking spammers before I do.
>> We do need to come up with a solution here.
>>
>> How about this question:
>>
>> Which of the child elements of teiHeader is required?
>>
>> We should accept either of these responses:
>>
>> <fileDesc>
>> fileDesc
>
> Depend on whether the chosen system is capable, I would suggest that we
> accept anything that has 'fileDesc' (even in a case-insensitive manner?)
> in it.
>
> Another possibility is to have questions with multiple radio button
> answers?  So if along with fileDesc it listed a bunch of things that
> aren't children of teiHeader...  Of course the problem with this type of
> thing (unlike your suggestion) is that it means the spamming script can
> quess correctly if it keeps trying.
>
> I'm wondering whether knowledge of the TEI is the right thing to test
> for contributions to the TEI wiki?  I know that seems self-evident. But
> I wouldn't want to stop contributions from someone who knows very little
> about the TEI, but wrote a useful XSLT script cuz someone gave him some
> TEI data once.
>
> Isn't what we want to test that they are a) human and b) not evil
> spammers?  There are lots of ways to test a) ... not many ways to test b.
>
> -James
>
>
>>
>> On 3/13/2011 1:38 PM, David Sewell wrote:
>>> Heh. The trick would be finding questions with unambiguous answers that
>>> anyone familiar with the TEI Guidelines should be able to answer, but
>>> that would require a certain amount of research beyond 5 seconds of
>>> Google for anyone else.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2011, James Cummings wrote:
>>>
>>>> Re: question
>>>>
>>>> Might be fun. So the answer is teiHeader and facsimile .... right?
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James Cummings, University of Oxford
>>>> (from phone)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kevin Hawkins [kevin.s.hawkins at ultraslavonic.info]
>>>> Received: Sunday, 13 Mar 2011, 16:23
>>>> To: TEI Council [tei-council at lists.village.Virginia.EDU]
>>>> Subject: Re: [tei-council] captcha for the wiki?
>>>>
>>>> On 3/13/2011 12:01 PM, David Sewell wrote:
>>>>> Does Amazon enforce their policies for Mechanical Turk, I wonder? They
>>>>> explicitly ban spamming or "disrupting or degrading the operation of any
>>>>> website or internet service"
>>>>> (https://www.mturk.com/mturk/help?helpPage=policies).
>>>>
>>>> It seems they don't enforce, and they may have a reason for doing so:
>>>>
>>>> http://behind-the-enemy-lines.blogspot.com/2010/12/mechanical-turk-now-with-4092-spam.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> MediaWiki allows you to create a "question captcha" where the user has
>>>>> to answer one or more questions to be allowed in. That might be
>>>>> promising: "What two elements are normally the children of the root
>>>>> 'TEI' element in a TEI P5 XML document?"
>>>>
>>>> Ooo, that might help us, at least for a while. (If I didn't know
>>>> anything about the TEI, you'd have to pay me a lot of money to skim
>>>> through the Guidelines to find the answer to this question!)
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Martin Holmes
University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
(mholmes at uvic.ca)