[tei-council] soft hyphens (again)

[Kevin Hawkins]

On 6/21/2010 9:50 AM, Gabriel Bodard wrote:
> On 20/06/2010 22:09, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
>>> (<certainty>   element inside<lb>   anyone?--to resurrect a TEI-L query
>>> that seems to have been met with deafening indifference...)
>>
>> Which TEI-L query is this?
>
> http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1006&L=TEI-L&T=0&F=&S=&P=7480
>
>> <lb/>   is an empty element, so we can't put certainty inside it without
>> changing its content model (and that of<cb/>   and<pb/>.
>
> Yes, that's exactly my point. So-called empty elements such as<gap/>
> and<space/>  can now contain the certainty family, and it's very
> valuable (especially in [semi-]automated editing environments) to be
> able to attach certainty to a specific element like this by position,
> without having to worry about generated as @xml:id. By the same token,
> it might make sense to use certainty inside the milestoneLike elements
> to indicate specifically things like
> type="weDontKnowIfThisIsAWordBreakOrNot".

I'm afraid I still don't understand.  Are these elements no longer empty 
elements?  They still appear that way even in Sebastian's test release. 
  When did this change happen?

Kevin