[tei-council] [TEI-L] SV: TEI MIME type (fwd)

Tue Dec 8 10:02:01 EST 2009

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Laurent Romary wrote:

> I was somehow waiting for some kind of a clear voicing. But it seems there is
> a silent concensus and I would give you my green light to pursue on this with
> SIgfrid in the name of the council.

James, you did voice some objections--did you intend them to be strong
enough to halt the process, or no?

> Thanks in advance,
> Laurent
>
>
> Le 8 déc. 09 à 15:52, David Sewell a écrit :
>
> > Did we ever take further action on this? Laurent, if you didn't contact
> > Sigfrid I can volunteer to do that (unless you want to).
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Laurent Romary wrote:
> >
> > > There seem to be a shift of opinion on this. May I ask whether there are
> > > strong disagreements that have not been expressed so far, and if not
> > > (let's
> > > say by the end of the week) do like David suggests here.
> > > Decision would be (if I understood correctly): go for a
> > > application/tei+xml
> > > application
> > > Laurent
> > >
> > > Le 24 nov. 09 à 17:20, David Sewell a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Technically our Feature Request is still open:
> > > >
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2856036&group_id=106328&atid=644065
> > > >
> > > > Sigfrid made a stronger case in his recent email to TEI-L for
> > > > registering application/tei+xml than he had previously. Do we want to
> > > > revisit our decision not to pursue registration?
> > > >
> > > > If so, I would suggest that we ask Sigfrid to supply us with the
> > > > information he thinks we would need to complete the IANA application (as
> > > > he seems to be familiar with the process), namely
> > > >
> > > > http://www.iana.org/cgi-bin/mediatypes.pl
> > > >
> > > > and then we could decide who to authorize as the "Author" of the
> > > > application.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:05:26 +0100
> > > > From: Sigfrid Lundberg <slu at KB.DK>
> > > > To: TEI-L at listserv.brown.edu
> > > > Subject: [TEI-L] SV: TEI MIME type
> > > >
> > > > The docbook mime type is documented in an internet draft
> > > >
> > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-walsh-app-docbook-xml-00
> > > >
> > > > it expired a year or so ago. Don't know why it wasn't renewed. Perhaps
> > > > the
> > > > work with XProc and Calabash too much time.
> > > >
> > > > In general, an XML application is a document format defined using XML as
> > > > opposed to applications that are processing XML documents which are xml
> > > > processors. In my view TEI is an XML application. Mime types for XML
> > > > applications are described in RFC3023
> > > > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3023),
> > > > which clearly states that mime types like
> > > >
> > > > application/mathml+xml
> > > >
> > > > is the preferred form. There are also a discussion of this in the
> > > > recommendation from the W3C "Architecture of the World Wide Web"
> > > > (http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#xml-media-types)
> > > >
> > > > These practices are now very much integrated in the REST design patterns
> > > > for
> > > > web applications. I'd like to take a few examples:
> > > >
> > > > One could imagine that someone would like to publish TEI documents using
> > > > the
> > > > atom publishing protocol. That is explicitely prohibited for other
> > > > text/*
> > > > mime types except text/html. XML documents published using this protocol
> > > > must be application/*+xml.
> > > >
> > > > Consider the situation that we have the same content available through a
> > > > REST web service, where the representation is chosen through the accept
> > > > http
> > > > header, then what if there are more than one XML representation, should
> > > > TEI
> > > > then use text/xml and docbook application/docbook+xml? Well, one could
> > > > live
> > > > with that, but harvesters that where not prepared for this in advance
> > > > couldn't.
> > > >
> > > > The TEI community is really good at XML, but a registered
> > > > applicaiton/tei+xml would demonstrate to the world that we regard
> > > > ourselves
> > > > as a part of the Wordwide web as well.
> > > >
> > > > Yours
> > > >
> > > > Sigfrid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > Fra: TEI (Text Encoding Initiative) public discussion list
> > > > [TEI-L at listserv.brown.edu] P&#229; vegne af Lou Burnard
> > > > [lou.burnard at OUCS.OX.AC.UK]
> > > > Sendt: 21. november 2009 18:34
> > > > Til: TEI-L at listserv.brown.edu
> > > > Emne: Re: TEI MIME type
> > > >
> > > > Council discussed this recently, and reached the conclusion that there
> > > > was no advantage (or indeed much sense) in registering a TEI-specific
> > > > MIME type. It's XML all the way down; not an application as such.
> > > >
> > > > Piotr Bański wrote:
> > > > > Is there one?
> > > > >
> > > > > Docbook claims to have "application/docbook+xml", but I can't find it
> > > > > at
> > > > > IANA:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/
> > > > >
> > > > > So I'm not sure whether the absence of application/tei+xml or
> > > > > text/tei+xml or whatever ("tei-p5+xml"?) at IANA means that the TEI's
> > > > > type is not registered or maybe merely not listed there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr
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> > >
> >
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