[tei-council] Suppressed text: summary of position (FR 2242434)

Dot Porter dot.porter at gmail.com
Mon Nov 2 11:06:50 EST 2009


I have no objections to the element, but it seems that David and Gabby
are talking about two different elements. Gabby's element means "This
text is in the source text, but the editor thinks it doesn't really
belong/was included in error" whereas David's element means "This text
is in the source text, but is being suppressed by someone for some
reason." Gabby's is, in effect, a more specific version of David's. Do
we want two different elements? Or is this a difference that could be
taken care of with a @type attribute? Or am I misunderstanding
something?

Dot

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Gabriel Bodard <gabriel.bodard at kcl.ac.uk> wrote:
> For what it's worth, I really don't like the idea of the element name
> being a processing instruction (if nothing else because most editions
> *don't* actually want to completely suppress or expunge said text). I
> want the element name to mean, "This text is in the source text, but the
> editor things it doesn't really belong/was included in error."
>
> I personally can't think of anything better than <superfluous>, and only
> tried to think of something shorter in case anyone objected to such a
> long element name.
>
> (Are there any objections to the element per se, before we get embroiled
> in naming wars?)
>
> G
>
> David Sewell a écrit :
>> I don't have a strong case to make pro or con the proposal from the
>> point of view of epigraphy or manuscript editing, not being a
>> specialist. However, I would vote for the element with the name
>> <suppress> (not <suppressed>) because of its utility as a
>> quasi-processing instruction for born-digital documents. Suppose I am
>> writing minutes for a TEI Board discussion of the TEI Tite bids that
>> includes names of vendors. But those names should be kept confidential
>> in any Web version of the minutes. So:
>>
>>  We agreed that <suppress reason="redact">Vendor X</suppress> is ...
>>
>> which could be rendered as
>>
>>  We agreed that [redacted] is ...
>>
>> Of course there are other ways to accomplish the same thing, and I do
>> not feel passionate about this if someone has a good objection.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>
>>> On 30 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Elena Pierazzo wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know Sebastian said that tomorrow (today) was the last possible
>>>> day to
>>>> include new stuff for the next release, but I feared we arrived a bit
>>>> last-moment, especially because we are actually reopening the games
>>>> for
>>>> the element name (see the message at the very bottom). If we missed
>>>> the
>>>> deadline, we apologise...
>>>>
>>>
>>> its ok, if everyone agrees, we can get this in the release.
>>> --
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>
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