[tei-council] word-dividing
Lou Burnard
lou.burnard at oucs.ox.ac.uk
Wed Jul 1 07:51:24 EDT 2009
After much head scratching here in Oxford, we've decided on "nobreak"
I added a couple more examples and a bit more discussion, taking
examples from some real projects too. Affected are the definition for
<lb> and the discussion of milestones in CO.
Daniel Paul O'Donnell wrote:
> I think "word-dividing" in this case means "splitting individual words
> atwain" rather than "demarcating their boundaries" ;)
>
> In my edition of Cædmon's Hymn I needed to encode space and lb
> similarly explicitly: i.e. indicating whether it fell within the word
> or between words: the stylesheets (such as they were in those days)
> handled them differently depending on the value of @type (which I'd
> made universal). White space wouldn't have done it for me, because I
> was reformatting the data with and without the word-internal spaces
> and lines depending on the view the user selected.
>
> -dan
>
> Lou Burnard wrote:
>> Gabriel BODARD wrote:
>>
>>> Lou Burnard wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> (9) lb: should we add an example of the usage of
>>>>> lb/type=word-dividing, which currently sits a little uncomfortably
>>>>> in the note. I suggest "Cae<lb type="worddiv"/>sari".
>>>>>
>>>> Don't know what note you're referring to. Don't see the point of
>>>> the @type attribute. Haven't done anything.
>>>>
>>> This was discussed some months ago, and is the reason @type was
>>> allowed on <lb> in the first place. There is currently a note at the
>>> bottom of LB that says: "The type attribute may be used to
>>> characterize the linebreak in any respect, for example as
>>> word-breaking or not." We have literally thousands of examples of
>>> this in EpiDoc files, where words are not always tagged explicitly
>>> and it's the only way we can be sure to tokenize correctly. I just
>>> thought an example would help to clarify the use-case.
>>>
>>> (If people feel strongly that [e.g.] "wordDividing" would be a
>>> better recommended value than "worddiv", I'm happy to make that part
>>> of our P5 upgrade script.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't mind adding examples, but this one confuses me. Isn't the
>> point that the <lb/> in your example does NOT divide the word ? so
>> both "wordDividing" and "worddiv" seem exactly the opposite of what
>> you want here. How about "nowordbreak" or "nwb"?
>>
>> I know I lost this argument last time, but I still think in practice
>> I'd deal with this by putting in whitespace where the <lb> coincided
>> with a word boundary and leaving it out where it didn't!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>>
>>
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