[tei-council] [ tei-Feature Requests-2209933 ] content model of 'am'

[Dan O'Donnell]

Intellectually, as Gaby knows, I'm of Lou's camp on this. I don't think 
there should be transcriptional elements inside am for reasons discussed 
on the list already.

Practically, however, like w which also used to exclude them, the 
pressure to combine transcriptional with linguistic/rhetorical markup is 
probably too strong to resist.

Gabriel Bodard wrote:
> Multiple use cases in my original ticket, yes.
>
> Some examples of usage (taken from real texts, not just made up exempli 
> gratia):
>
> <abbr>Aug<am>g<unclear>g</unclear></am></abbr>
> <expan>Augusti tres</expan>
>
> <abbr>Imp<am>pp<supplied>pp</supplied></am></abbr>
> <expan>Imperatores quinque</expan>
>
> <abbr>Imp<am>p<sic>p</sic></am></abbr>
> <expan>Imperatores duo</expan>
>
> <abbr>lampr<am><unclear><g ref="#leaf"/></unclear></am></abbr>
> <expan>lamprotates</expan>
>
> (If we ever did have such a conversation, I clearly didn't agree. ;-) )
>
> Lou Burnard a écrit :
>   
>> Gabriel Bodard wrote:
>>     
>>> SourceForge.net a écrit :
>>>       
>>>>> Group: GREEN
>>>>>           
>>>> It seems that at least transcription-type elements (add, corr, del,
>>>>         
>>>  > hi, sic, subst, supplied, unclear) ought to be available within <am>.
>>>       
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>         
>>>>> Comment By: Lou Burnard (louburnard)
>>>>>           
>>>> Date: 2009-03-22 22:49
>>>> The proposal is to give it the same content model as <origDate> as per bug
>>>> # 2542813
>>>>         
>>> Looking at 
>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2542813&group_id=106328&atid=644062 
>>> I see the suggestion that origDate be given the content model:
>>>
>>> (text | model.gLike | model.hiLike)*
>>>
>>> Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but this would seem not to allow 
>>> pPart.transcriptional, which is the most important group required by the 
>>> original request for <am>. If so, this doesn't answer the feature 
>>> request at all.
>>>       
>> I thought there was a comment somewhere, perhaps not on the ticket 
>> though, to the effect that you shouldn't be putting these 
>> transcriptional elements inside the <am>? It's only a jumped up kind of 
>> <g> after all.
>>
>> Do we have a use case somewhere?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>   


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