[tei-council] Last question about badges

[Dan O'Donnell]

After it was suggested to me that we should just say "use" if that's 
what we meant, I wondered if we shouldn't say "This project uses." But 
two issues came up: 1) not all people are projects, and 2) it might be 
too long for the badge. "We" covered both basis, but is not applicable 
if you are a single person. But I can't see any reason why having a 
singular and plural badge would be a problem.

If I've counted aright, we basically split 5 "use" (me, Sebastian, 
Laurent, Elena, Peter) to 5 "powered" (Lou, David, Gabriel, Susan, Dot) 
with 2 people (James and Arianna) equally happy either way. Any last 
thoughts? I'm also happy to write up something covering both themes (Use 
and powered by) keeping Lou's point about it also referring to 
intellectual influence. I can't see how that would cause a problem, 
since the point of the exercise--slapping a TEI badge on projects that 
use it, would be accomplished anyway, and the split in opinion suggests 
that whichever we choose would cause a similar split in understanding in 
the target audience.

-dan

Gabriel Bodard wrote:
> In some cases, wouldn't "project uses" be more appropriate than "site 
> uses"? I guess that is part of my problem with the verb "uses" for this 
> purpose--we're never going to agree on what the subject should be. 
> "Powered by" is nice and generic, and it's what a hundred other badges 
> also say so it's well-understood as well as fairly generic.
>
> G
>
> James Cummings a écrit :
>   
>> I realise that no one wants any more suggestions, but why not 'Site 
>> uses' rather than 'powered by' or 'I/We use'.  Saying the site uses TEI 
>> is vague and impersonal enough for those who I/We might not be appropriate.
>>
>> Just a thought as it occurs to me, feel free to ignore.
>>
>> -James
>>
>> Pierazzo, Elena wrote:
>>     
>>> I think that "I use" will be better than "powered by", even is perhaps it doesn't convey all the meaning Lou was suggesting. I think that, being more understated, that will enourage people to use it.
>>> I also agree with James suggestions.
>>> Elena
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: tei-council-bounces at lists.village.Virginia.EDU [tei-council-bounces at lists.village.Virginia.EDU] On Behalf Of Gabriel Bodard [gabriel.bodard at kcl.ac.uk]
>>> Sent: 19 February 2009 14:52
>>> To: Lou Burnard
>>> Cc: TEI Council
>>> Subject: Re: [tei-council] Last question about badges
>>>
>>> I also very much agree that "powered by" is more serious and more
>>> indiciative of what we mean than "we use". The very fact that we can't
>>> decide between the wording "I use" or "we use" makes me nervous...
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> Lou Burnard a écrit :
>>>       
>>>> The other way to read "powered by" is with reference to an intellectual
>>>> rather than an engineering context -- kind of "empowered by". Our site
>>>> is the way it is because we think TEI.
>>>>
>>>> Susan Schreibman wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I kind of like the 'powered by' rather than 'I use' or 'we use' -- powered
>>>>> by makes me think of what lies behind the screen -- the code that makes it
>>>>> all happen; powered by sounds significant to me,  active in a way that a
>>>>> statement like  'I use' does not
>>>>>
>>>>> just my humble opinion
>>>>>
>>>>> ss
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Dan O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell at uleth.ca>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was discussing the badges with somebody here and they made what seems
>>>>>> to me to be a very sensible proposal, that I'm not sure I've heard
>>>>>> before. If the point of the badge is to indicate generally that a
>>>>>> project or person uses TEI, they suggested, why not simply have the
>>>>>> badge say "I use [TEI Logo]" and/or "We use [TEI Logo]" instead of
>>>>>> "Powered by [TEI Logo]" which may or may not be true in one or more senses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I very much like this. But my sense has been at right angles to the
>>>>>> council on this all along, so let me throw it out there to be shot down.
>>>>>> Is there a reason not to ask the designer:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a) Increase the size of TEI logo on the button by maybe 10% so that it
>>>>>> runs farther over the edge of the button
>>>>>> b) Change the text to two buttons: "I use [TEI Logo]" and "We use [TEI
>>>>>> Logo]"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this is not rocket science (though getting things wrong is
>>>>>> disproportionately embarrassing), let me ask for comments til next
>>>>>> Monday. At that point, if I don't hear any objections, I'll get them up
>>>>>> on the site.
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