[tei-council] [Fwd: abuse of <desc>]

[Ciula, Arianna]

The book of abstract is available at 
http://www.ekl.oulu.fi/dh2008/Digital%20Humanities%202008%20Book%20of%20Abstracts.pdf
and the abstract of the paper is there; however the argument (and 
proposal) was developed much further in the actual paper.

As I said, a full proposal will be the future work of the authors in 
conjunction with the SIG ontologies...so no hurry, just wanted to report 
it. We always knew anyway that the <desc> business was done a bit in a rush.

Arianna

Lou Burnard wrote:
> I  agree that the way the descriptive information in some of the new ND elements
> is handled may need more thought, but I don't think the use of <desc> is that
> abusive. But I havent had the chance to see the argument -- is the paper you
> referenced available online anywhere?
> 
> 
> n message <486B8E72.7000302 at kcl.ac.uk> "Ciula, Arianna"
> <arianna.ciula at kcl.ac.uk> writes:
>> Trying again...
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: abuse of <desc>
>> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:08:10 +0100
>> From: Arianna Ciula <arianna.ciula at kcl.ac.uk>
>> To: TEI Council <tei-council at lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
>> References: <4868E77D.6050705 at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>>
>> There is actually one mistake (or possibly more than that and therefore
>> something we cannot tackle right now) that has been reported by the
>> following paper at the DH conference in Finland last week:
>> Øyvind Eide and Christian-Emil Ore, 'TEI and cultural heritage
>> ontologies', paper presented at the Digital Humanities conference 2008.
>>
>> If you look at the definition of <desc>:
>> '(description) contains a brief description of the intended usage,
>> purpose, or application of its parent element.'
>>
>> it is evident that to use it to contain a description in a much broader
>> sense than the one above is actually abuse. And we do this especially
>> with elements that use model.labelLike. See for instance the <event
>> type="marriage" when="1859-04-26"> or the first <org> example or the new
>> climate example more evidently than others in the ND chapter.
>>
>> Øyvind and Christian -together with other things- proposed the
>> introduction of a new more generic element called <description>. I I
>> suppose it is wiser to wait for a more formal proposal from them and the
>> SIG ontologies, so we can't deal with this right now, but thought I
>> pointed this out to the rest of the council that wasn't at DH.
>>
>> Arianna
>>
>> Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>> I'm proposing to make the release on 4th July (well, maybe 5th), so if
>>> anyone knows of mistakes so far uncorrected, now is the time
>>> to squeak
>>>
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Dr Arianna Ciula
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King's College London
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London WC2B 5RL (UK)
Tel: +44 (0)20 78481945
http://staff.cch.kcl.ac.uk/~aciula/