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[Arianna Ciula]

Syd Bauman wrote:
> I'm a bit confused. I haven't studied what you've done here, yet,
> just taken a glance. But why are there two elements <handNotes> and
> <handDesc>? They are very similar, almost identical.

I think the idea is that while <handDesc> is used to describe the 
general writing in a manuscript and therefore doesn't necessarily need 
to mention singular hands in it, <handNote> refers to the description of 
a particular hand (be it The scribe's A Hand or one of the many 
interventions of a scribe/author over time on the same manuscript).

> <handDesc> has a hands= attribute; if we really don't want that on
> the <handNote> wrapper when MS is not loaded, then we should put it
> in an attribute class defined by MS.

My understanding was that if you loaded PH, than you would get 
<handDesc> which has the @hands attribute.
The attribute @hands as currently defined wouldn't make sense in <handNote>.

> 
> <handDesc> permits paragraphs or <handNote>s (but not both), whereas
> <handNotes> allows only a series of <handNote>s. Is it really
> inappropriate to use <p> inside the wrapper when a child of
> <profileDesc>?

Personally I am not in favour of the use of <p> for things that 
'semantically' can be paragraphs as well as anything else we want them 
to be in the header especially since we have good wrappers. So I think 
we should avoid - if possible (although in MS we have paragraph 
everywhere...sob...).

If so, I think I'd still be in favor of combining
> these two elements, and using Schematron to issue a warning if
> profileDesc/handDesc/p occurs.

But the whole point was to allow people who don't want to load MS to be 
able to list descriptions of specific hands and point to them from 
chunks of the main text.

I am aware that probably not many projects would use PH without MS, but 
what if they wanted to? what would the @hand attribute point to?

I am sorry if I have confused you more rather than help here.

Arianna
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Dr Arianna Ciula
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