[tei-council]DTDs (was conformance draft)

[Arianna Ciula]

Lou Burnard wrote:

> Note that I 
> am not saying "we need a user manual for Roma" (we have one more or 
> less); I am saying "we need a specification for how the various bits of 
> ODD are actually used to generate Relaxng and DTD schemas"

I agree with this.

Arianna
> 
> I am now coming round to the view that this should be a new section of 
> chapter 28. I think the DTD part of it would be fairly easy to compile  
> (l;argely from all the bits I've been hacking out of other parts of that 
> chapter) but I will need help drafting the RelaxNG bits. Something for 
> Sebastian to be thinking about on his boat?
> 
> Lou
> 
> 
> James Cummings wrote:
>> Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>  
>>> Syd Bauman wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Right. If you wanna use a DTD, the only one you get to use is either
>>>> a) the one generated from your ODD via roma, or
>>>> b) one you create from the Relax NG schema you stitched together, if
>>>>    we go that route.
>>>>         
>>> pretty radical. no DTD modules to be created at all any more?
>>>
>>> I had the impression on TEI-L that the "DTD bad, schema good"
>>> war is not proceeding very well.
>>>
>>> I'd wager that at least 1/3 of the Council members
>>> use DTDs for their day to day work with the TEI...
>>> (including you, Syd?)
>>>     
>>
>> I don't see that this matters?  Surely these days those DTDs are 
>> generated
>> from ODD via Roma?  I haven't used a DTD for absolutely ages which wasn't
>> generated from Roma.  Since Syd above in point a) says that DTDs 
>> generated
>> from roma are OK, then I don't see this as part of the "DTD bad, Schema
>> good" debate.  People are still free to use DTDs, they just have to be
>> generated from Roma.
>>
>>  
>>>> Furthermore, if you wanna use a DTD we should make it very clear and
>>>> abundantly explicit that you are not getting a lot of the validation
>>>> that you would get if you were using Relax NG.
>>>>       
>>> that's a separate matter (though I agree)
>>>     
>>
>> Agreed (though not in Conformance, but Modification section).
>>
>> -James
>>
>>   
> 
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