[tei-council] Report on Vilnius meeting

[Lou Burnard]

Apologies -- I am still hoping to get the material on places back online 
by the weekend -- it got pushed off by other committments. The ndextra 
document is still accessible at www.tei-c.org/oldDrafts/ndextra.html 
(along with all the other old junk that used to be in Drafts) if you're 
desperate...


Arianna Ciula wrote:
> The resource at http://www.tei-c.org/Drafts/ndextra.html is not 
> available any more and the proposal made accessible for the TEI list at 
> http://www.tei-c.org/Drafts/testnym.html doesn't contain all the new 
> examples for Places but just the Nym section.
> 
> Any idea where I can find the former examples that have disappeared?
> 
> Arianna
> 
> Lou Burnard wrote:
>> Christian Wittern wrote:
>>> Matthew James Driscoll wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <listNym>
>>>
>>> does that mean you also proposa a <gi>listNym</gi> for TEI?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes. Matthew's report doesn't mention that there is a draft ODD, 
>> probably because I have not yet got round to putting it anywhere where 
>> Council members can see it easily. But if you look in the P5/Test 
>> directory on sourceforge, you will see a file called testndextra.odd, 
>> which contains the current state of the draft.
>>
>> I've just put a copy of the HTML generated from this by Roma on the 
>> website at http://www.tei-c.org/Drafts/ndextra.html -- will try to 
>> keep this up to date as the draft progresses
>>
>>
>>>> Our principal task at this meeting was to develop mechanisms for 
>>>> encoding
>>>> place-names, analogous to those which were developed for personal 
>>>> names at
>>>> the meeting in Oxford last year, which would allow for the recording of
>>>> abstracted information about a place, such as map coordinate, GIS
>>>> information etc., as well as variant forms of the name, in different
>>>> languages (e.g. Praha, Prague, Praga) and/or different forms over 
>>>> time (e.g.
>>>> Lundunum, London). On the analogy with <person>, we propose a <place>
>>>> element, which will usually contain at least one, and possibly several,
>>>> <placeName> elements, followed by one or more <location> elements to 
>>>> provide
>>>> geographical and/or geo-political information about the location of the
>>>> place. 
>>>
>>> Why would you need more than one <location>?  I had the impression 
>>> that the place is what stays constant? Is it because it also stands 
>>> in for the geopolitical information? 
>>
>> Because a place might be located in more than one way (e.g. by its 
>> geopolitical status, or by its co-ordinates), and may also move its 
>> location over time.
>>> However, if we talk about administrative geography here, you will 
>>> also have to account for changes in the size and super/sub components 
>>> of a place and a way to link this to coordinates defining the 
>>> polygon.  Would the tagset be up to this task?
>>
>> probably... because we embed GML!
>>
>>
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