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Subject: [sixties-l] Residents Express Outrage Over Howard Zinn (fwd)
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> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:15:22 -0800
> From: radtimes <resist@best.com>
> Subject: Residents Express Outrage Over Howard Zinn
>
> Newton Residents Express Outrage Over Leftist Speaker at High School
>
> http://www.massnews.com/11271newton.htm
>
> Howard Zinn Is Leftover from Radical '60s
>
> By Ed Oliver
> November 27, 2001
>
> Newton residents lined up at a school committee meeting last night to
> express their anger over an incident at Newton North High School on
> November 9 where many students were forced to attend an anti-war
> assembly.
>
> On that day, a controversial leftist professor, who is a holdover from
> the 1960s named Howard Zinn, gave a speech to high school students
> saying US military operations in Afghanistan were morally equivalent to
> the September 11 terrorist attacks.
>
> News of the incident enraged townspeople already upset with the radical
> school system's disdain for traditional displays of patriotism such as
> flags in the classroom and the Pledge of Allegiance, in addition to its
> legendary embrace of the homosexual agenda.
>
> Several residents commented on the poor timing of the Professor Zinn
> presentation and the disrespect to veterans' families displayed by the
> incident. There were also many comments about the embarrassing
> reputation of the Newton Schools.
>
> Comments were also made about an underlying hostility to America
> displayed by the Newton Schools, such as patriotism being drowned out by
> multiculturalism. Several people asked the School Committee to get out
> of the 60's mode and start teaching patriotism again.
>
> The school committee, which included Mayor Cohen and Superintendent
> Young, sat stone faced under the verbal assault.
>
> Residents Speak
>
> A resident, Will Rogers, pointed out that the school committee grew up
> at a time when it was very popular to protest. However, he said, "This
> is now. I urge you all to get over it. There are certain fundamental
> things this country stands for^why you would pick someone like Zinn to
> come and talk I have no understanding. It's wonderful to have dissenting
> views, but we do that very well without having extremists^Get over it
> please. We are in the next century. The 60's and 70's were long, long
> ago."
>
> A student named Willie Gassett who attends Newton North High School told
> MassNews that students had to attend the speech if their class teacher
> signed up for it. Although none of his teachers signed up, his friend's
> history teacher did and told the class, "I signed up for this assembly.
> You have to go or else you fail this class this day."
>
> A resident named Cindy, who asked that her last name be withheld, told
> the School Committee that her nephew, a ninth grader at Newton North
> High, told her on Thanksgiving that the presentation by Professor Zinn
> was not optional and that his entire class had to attend.
>
> She told the School Committee that a speaker with an opposing point of
> view should have been presented immediately. "Today I contacted Jean
> White, who is the enrichment coordinator on campus in charge of this
> specific presentation. When I asked her if she had scheduled an opposing
> point of view for the children who attended the Zinn presentation, she
> said they did not have anyone, and asked me if I had any names. Why
> would the administration go ahead and allow such a presentation without
> first arranging for an opposing point of view?"
>
> She said she believes in exposing children to other viewpoints. "I feel
> very strongly, however, that when opposing viewpoints on very
> controversial issues are not given equal consideration, your teaching
> feels as though it becomes an agenda, not an education."
>
> Donna Mazzola wanted to know why parents were not notified about the
> Zinn speech. She said she found it ironic that neither of her two
> children were present for veteran ceremonies, but both were brought to
> the Zinn speech.
>
> "The only positive thing that came out of this event was that my
> 14-year-old said he and his friends stopped listening and my 17-year-old
> said his peers were very angry and hurt. But they felt helpless to
> comment. Apparently there is more hope for our young people."
>
> Brian Camenker told the committee that he spoke to several kids. None of
> them told him going to the Zinn speech was optional. "The idea that this
> was mandatory is true," he said.
>
> Camenker told the Superintendent he remembers sitting in his office two
> years ago asking why there were no flags in the classrooms. "You gave me
> this bored look," said Camenker, "because there were much more important
> things I'm sure." He also said the Pledge of Allegiance is routinely
> ignored although it is required by state law and parents ask about it.
>
> Jim Epstein said, "Why don't we get with it. We are in a new age now and
> there is a role for the schools to teach patriotism. As far as the age
> of cultural relativism, we're beyond that now."
>
> Anthony Pellegrini, a World War II veteran, pointed out that the school
> committee room where they were meeting was without an American flag.
>
> Marsha Ciccolo said a young man from the high school told her that
> Professor Zinn said we are as bad as the terrorists. He told her that no
> facts were presented, only moralizing.
>
> "What on earth did you hope to accomplish by bringing this traitor, this
> maggot thriving in this country off the backs of others whom he
> despises, to lecture our community's children? Did you really think he
> would present a factually sound other side? Or is it that none of you
> have been willing to grow up and admit that maybe the sixties are gone?"
>
> Ciccolo said she calculated that, "Fifteen thousand dollars of school
> time was wasted on the so-called voluntary assembly. Let's see, Howard
> Zinn spouting nonsense, or art and music? Do us all a favor, hold
> someone accountable for this blunder."
>
> Thomas Mountain professed his profound disappointment in the city's
> school leadership for knowingly bringing Zinn into the school to "spew
> his anti-American rhetoric."
>
> Some in Favor
>
> A student representative named Benjamin Heidlige defended the school and
> Professor Zinn. He said the fact that the speech was voluntary was made
> perfectly clear and those who say it wasn't were probably not paying
> attention.
>
> Ted Mahon said everyone has the right to be wrong and he is proud of the
> school system.
>
> Sherry Moor, from a large family of veterans, said the right to dissent
> is inherent patriotism. She thanked the Newton schools for bringing an
> array of opinions.
>
> Faye Ruup also said patriotism encompasses our right to listen to other
> opinions. She urged the school committee not to prevent "diversity of
> thought."
>
> However, George Caruso said, "You couldn't have done better with the
> Taliban" by bringing Zinn in to speak. He said he only learned about the
> matter an hour ago and was outraged. He said the meeting should not have
> been mandatory and there should be an alternative speaker offered.
>
> Lindsay Dahlben, a student representative, said students should not have
> to recite the Pledge of Allegiance because it has "God" in it, and some
> Americans do not believe in God.
>
> Supt. Young Says It Was Voluntary
>
> Before anybody was allowed to speak, Superintendent Jeffrey Young read a
> prepared statement to the packed meeting room.
>
> Young said that in order to get a better understanding of the issues
> involved in the Sept. 11 attack, two faculty members at Newton North
> High School discussed with the school's "Human Rights Board" the
> possibility of hosting a series of speakers. The faculty was then
> surveyed for ideas about topics and speakers.
>
> Young said a plan was developed for a full year voluntary program to
> bring in an array of speakers with different points of view. He said
> that attending the speeches is not mandatory. But it was later revealed
> that a student was required to "opt-out" of the session if the teacher
> assigned it.
>
> Young said one of the speakers invited by the Human Rights Board was
> Professor Howard Zinn, who spoke to a full auditorium. Afterward,
> students stayed to ask questions he said.
>
> Several students and faculty asked whether there would be an opportunity
> to hear speakers with opposing points-of-view, said Young. They said
> yes, explaining there would be plenty of speakers with the full year
> program.
>
> A week later, after the Zinn speech, there were four voluntary
> assemblies coordinated by the Office of Veterans' Services, said Young,
> which were attended by students and faculty as well as veterans of World
> War II, the Korean and Vietnam conflicts.
>
> "At each of these assemblies, the principal invited the audience to
> stand in honor of veterans and observe a moment of silence for the
> victims of September 11, and to join the principal in reciting the
> Pledge of Allegiance."
>
> Young did not say, however, if there were any speeches given by veterans
> as part of the ceremonies. He said a photojournalist who covers the
> Middle East was invited to speak the next week.
>
> "All events presented by the on-campus program are voluntary. Teachers
> sign up as they get notice of events, and students have the right to opt
> out^moreover, in no way does the content of Professor Zinn's remarks in
> any way represent a particular bias on the part of either the faculty,
> nor the administration of the public schools."
>
> Young said he surveyed the 21 school principals shortly after September
> 11 about the number of classrooms where the American flags were either
> missing or in such condition where they needed to be replaced. He said
> he ordered enough flags to equip every classroom in Newton and they are
> expected to arrive within four weeks.
>
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