Re: [sixties-l] Matters of Treason: Reply to Roger Clegg

From: Uriah768@aol.com
Date: Wed Jun 20 2001 - 17:33:00 EDT

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    In a message dated 06/19/2001 8:15:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
    rjacobs@zoo.uvm.edu writes:

    > Does this mean we can quit referring to fascists who despise freedom for
    > anyone other than themselves and their money as rightwingers and just call
    > them fascists? After all, the only thing they are truly hands-off about is
    > corporate money. In every other respect, they want to control our
    > lives--they want a bigger drug war, more prisons, no access to birth
    > control, and the right to legislate sexual preference. Their ideas are
    > fascist, their traditions are from the KKK and the fascist elements of the
    > right, and their agendas are of the fascists--where government works for
    > the corporations.
    > -ron j
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    The preceding paragraph can be summed up in the following way:
    You are free to think what you want...as long as it agrees with me in the end.
    Tolerance is our greatest virtue, unless you disagree with me, then you don't
    count.
    Who are you to say what is right and wrong for me? That's my job as an
    enlightened progressive thinker to do to and for you!
    Keep legislation out of the private lives of the people...unless they smoke,
    spank their children, or refuse to bend to my way of thinking.
    If you are a conservative who believes you are right, you are intolerant and
    a fascist. If you are a liberal, progressive-minded intellectual who
    believes you are right, you are.

    I would like to reword the paragraph to demonstrate how it goes both ways.

    Does this mean we can quit referring to fascists who despise freedom for
    anyone other than themselves and their political cause as leftwingers and
    just call
    them fascists? After all, the only thing they are truly hands-off about is
    everyone who agrees with them. In every other respect, they want to control
    our
    lives--they want better gun control, more inefficient governmental
    bureaucracy that fails to correct problems but does maintain their political
    control while giving them a sense of moral uprightness, unlimited access to
    birth control and doctor-assisted suicide (even though we don't trust doctors
    to take out an appendix much less end a life), and the right to legislate
    sexual preference by forcing their views down our throats without regard to
    disagreement or personal conviction, not to mention the criminalization of
    smokers and the greater odds of ostracization and bodily harm if you are a
    logger as opposed to being an axe murderer. Their ideas are fascist, their
    traditions are from the KKK (even though this was not technically a fascist
    organization, but a populist terrorist group...but who's being picky) and the
    fascist elements of the right and left (Hitler, Stalin, McCarthy, JFK, Nixon,
    Jesse Helms, Al Sharpton...take your pick here as there are many to choose
    from), and their agendas are of the fascists--where government works (an
    oxymoron in some ways) for only those who agree with them.

    In other words, fascism comes in many shapes and sizes, be they right or
    left. One person's enlightened progressivism is another's fascism. All
    power to your right to express your views. Just don't call someone who
    disagrees with you a fascist simply because they disagree. That may work on
    Jerry Springer or a freshman philosophy class field trip to a WTO protest,
    but it doesn't hold up in the end. When true debate ceases and the arguments
    collapse, the name-calling begins.

    Brad L. Duren
    Instructor of History
    Oklahoma Panhandle State University
    213 Hamilton Hall
    Goodwell, Oklahoma 73939
    work phone: 580-349-1498
    email: Uriah768@aol.com



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