Re: [sixties-l] Kerrey, Blanton and the Liberals

From: Ron Jacobs (rjacobs@zoo.uvm.edu)
Date: Tue May 08 2001 - 16:04:20 EDT

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    This is why I can't tolerate Hitchens--he's a friggin' Gucci Marxist. Yet,
    he is also a damn good writer and sometimes he hits the right targets
    -ron j.

    At 12:00 PM 5/5/01 -0700, radman wrote:
    > May 4, 2000
    >
    > Kerrey, Blanton and the Liberals
    >
    > by Alexander Cockburn
    >
    >"""" of the fight over segregation in the South. No one is saying that
    >Blanton was just a compliant footsoldier in a struggle for which the
    >commanding officers in Dixie Strom Thurmond and the others bear
    responsibility.
    >
    > Yet listen to the forgiving words from liberals for Bob Kerrey, yesterday
    >a US Senator and today the President of the New School in New York. Bob
    >Scheer, Los Angeles Times"", and that our anger should be reserved for
    >Robert McNamara, Pentagon chief in the JFK-LBJ years.
    >
    > Or listen to Vanity Fair and Nation columnist Christopher Hitchens, on a
    >Fox talk show the evening of May 1, the day Tom Blanton was put away.
    >
    > COLMES: What s your view on Bob Kerrey?
    >
    >&But look, none of the people he killed were raped. None of them were
    >dismembered. None of them were tortured. None of them were mutilated, had
    >their ears cut off. He never referred to them as gooks or slopes or
    >afterwards. So it con for one day s work in a free-fire zone in the Mekong
    >Delta, it was nothing like as bad as most days.
    >
    > It s not as though Hitchens is ill-attuned to the idea of war crimes. He
    >has, after all, just published a long indictment of Henry Kissinger, one of
    >McNamara s successors in administering the Vietnam strategy that put young
    >Kerrey and his fellow SEALs in that tiny Vietnamese village the night of
    >February 24, 1969, set to kill anyone unfortunate enough to cross their path.
    >
    >"""""""""""" too, and I doubt that even Scheer would want to do that.
    >
    > Scheer, an unrelenting apologist for Bill Clinton down the years should
    >surely remember that it was Kerrey who sabotaged Clinton s first budget,
    >back in 1993. In Scheer s book that surely classes Kerrey as a bad man. His
    >associates in the Senate mostly thought Kerrey was an arrogant shit. A
    >Republican staffer who dealt with him down the years described him to
    >Jeffrey St. Clair, my CounterPunch"" That s exactly the impression I had of
    >Kerrey when I saw him on the campaign trail in New Hampshire in 1992. A
    >cold fish, and a nasty one.
    >
    > Now I can see that Hitchens was maybe trying to hit a vein of Swiftian
    >irony in his remarks on that Fox show, trying to say that by the standards
    >of what US forces were doing in Vietnam at that time, Kerrey s unit was as
    >well mannered as a dinner party designed by Martha Stewart. He only killed
    >the women, he didn t rape them first. But Hitchens should know that irony
    >doesn t work on TV, and there s no palatable Martha Stewart-like
    >comportment when you re cutting throats and shooting babies at a range of
    >ten feet.
    >
    >"" Well, Hitchens has a taste for creeps, but usually they re a little more
    >offbeat than the president of the New School. Maybe Hitchens wants tenure
    >at the New School. So instead of urging the New School students and faculty
    >to demonstrate outside Kerrey s office and demand he be sent to the
    >International Court at the Hague to stand trial, and his salary be sent to
    >Thanh Phong as reparations, he s kissing Kerrey s ass. People will do
    >anything for tenure.
    >
    >"" I said I hoped it was. What happened to Scheer and Hitchens? What
    >happened to the cold steel of their hate? Actually, Scheer never had the
    >cold steel of pure hate. He wanted comfort too much and now he s got it.
    >Long since, he s gone soft in Santa Monica, going to parties with Oliver
    >Stone and Barbra Streisand. Hitchens is a hater, but too obsessively. Just
    >because Clinton put his hand up the skirt of some woman Hitchens cared for,
    >he confused him with Pol Pot.
    >
    >"" is no defense. Just listen to his disgusting disclosures to Dan Rather
    >in 60 Minutes II, Monday night.
    >
    > Rather: If in fact it did happen. If there was an old man, an old woman
    >and three children being killed. Was it or was it not within the rules of
    >engagement for you and your men as you understood it, if necessary, to kill
    >those people?
    >
    > Kerrey: Yes, Again, I don t know how you re gonna cut this tape, but I don
    >t have any doubt that the people that we killed were at the very least
    >sympathetic to the Viet Cong. And at the very most, were supporting their
    >efforts to kill us.
    >
    > Rather: Old men, women and children
    >
    > Kerrey: Yes, I mean, the Viet Cong, in a guerrilla war, the people that
    >get caught in the middle are the civilians. And the Viet Cong were a
    >thousand per cent more ruthless than any standard operating procedure that
    >any American GI or Navy SEAL had.
    >
    > """" than any US force or procedure.
    >
    > A slice of Rather s CBS interview with Kerrey s fellow SEAL, Gerhard Klann:
    >
    > Narration: This is also where Bob Kerrey says his unit came under attack.
    >
    > Rather: Did you take fire coming in?
    >
    > Klann: No.
    >
    > Rather: Gunfire of any kind?
    >
    > Klann: No.
    >
    > Rather: Anything even remotely sounding like gunfire?
    >
    > Klann: No, not that I can recall. No.
    >
    > Rather What d you do this time?
    >
    > Klann: We gathered everybody up, searched the place, searched everything.
    >
    > Rather: What was the make-up of this group?
    >
    > Klann: Probably a majority of em were kids. And women. And some younger
    women.
    >
    > Rather: So you got all the people out of there.
    >
    > Klann: We herded them together and in a group.
    >
    > Rather: Were any of these people armed?
    >
    > Klann: I don t believe so.
    >
    > Rather: Fair to say you didn t see any weapons?
    >
    > Klann: I didn t see any.
    >
    > Rather: Did you decide pretty quickly or not that the target of your
    >mission, the Viet Cong leader, was not among them?
    >
    > Klann: Yeah we got together and we were, hey the guy ain t here. Now we
    >got these people, what do we do now?
    >
    > Rather: What did you do then?
    >
    > Klann: We killed em.
    >
    > Rather: What do you mean, you killed em?
    >
    > Klann: We shot em all.
    >
    > Rather: Was an order given for that or was it more or less spontaneous?
    >
    > Klann: I don t think we would have acted spontaneously on something like
    >that. There was an order given.
    >
    > Rather: What was the order?
    >
    > Klann: To kill em.
    >
    > Rather: Why?
    >
    > Klann: Cause we d already compromised ourselves by killing the other group.
    >
    > Rather: Whose responsibility, whose obligation was it to say that?
    >
    > Klann: The ultimate responsibility fell on Bob Kerrey.
    >
    > Rather: Do you remember him saying that?
    >
    > Klann: I don t remember his exact words, but he was the officer in charge.
    >The call was his.
    >
    > Rather: And then what happened?
    >
    > Klann: We lined up, and we opened fire.
    >
    > Rather: Individually or raked them with automatic weapons fire?
    >
    > Klann: No. We, we just slaughtered them. It was automatic weapons fire.
    >Rifle fire.
    >
    > Rather: At roughly what range?
    >
    > Klann: Six feet, ten feet, very close.
    >
    > Rather: Then did the shooting stop?
    >
    > Klann: Yeah, for a little bit.
    >
    > Rather: Was it quiet?
    >
    > Klann: It was dead quiet. It was dead quiet. Then you could just hear
    >certain people, hear their moaning. So we would just fire into that area
    >until it was silent there. And that was it. And, and until, we were sure
    >that everybody was dead.
    >
    > Rather: You said certain people were moaning or making noises. Were all
    >those adults?
    >
    > Klann: A few. I remember one baby still crying. That baby was probably the
    >last one alive.
    >
    > Rather: What happened to that baby?
    >
    > Klann: Shot like the rest of em.
    >
    > Rather: On camera we told Bob Kerrey about Gerhard Klann s account of the
    >events at Thanh Phong, and also revealed to him that much of Klann s story
    >is supported by a woman who says she was an eyewitness in the village.
    >Senator Kerrey seemed stunned, but then conceded that what happened at
    >Thanh Phong may have been worse than he remembers.
    >
    > As Chris Caldwell wrote in New York Press, Kerrey maybe didn t remember
    >too clearly what happened at Thanh Phong because his unit was doing the
    >same thing every night.
    >
    > Kerrey s been claiming that he s felt anguish and remorse down the years.
    >Nothing he s said in recent weeks supports this claim. Mostly he s been
    >saying that it was all an honest mistake, perpetrated under orders that
    >permitted him to kill anything in Thanh Phong that moved.
    >
    > Rather: All but one of the victims were women and children. There was one
    >man described as an older man. That being the case, why shouldn t it be
    >considered a war crime? Or an atrocity? Or be an investigation?
    >
    > Kerrey: To describe it as a war crime, I think is wrong. Or to describe it
    >as an atrocity, I would say, is pretty close to being right. Because that s
    >how it felt and that s why I feel guilt and shame for it.
    >
    > Rather: Are you concerned at all about the consequences of this becoming
    >public?
    >
    > Kerrey: Well am I, certainly, I m that s a possibility. I ve got to be
    >prepared to tolerate any consequences of this. (Edit) I understand that
    >that are all kinds of potential consequences, up to and including somebody
    >saying, this is a war crime. And let s investigate and charge him and put
    >him in prison.
    >
    > That's reasonable. Let s push a trial of Kerrey, and of his commanding
    >officers. Let Kofi Annan send a UN unit down Fifth Avenue to the Village,
    >to seize Kerrey. If Blanton can get put in the dock for what he did in the
    >Sixties, so can the former Senator, now running the New School where
    >fugitive scholars from Hitler s Germany were given shelter, and where
    >Hannah Arendt taught.
    >
    > In the preface to her book, The Origins of Totalitarianism""
    >



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