Hey, is it great having drieux back on this list or what? --at least if you
have the time to read his screeds. Hang in, ole buddy!
drieux just drieux wrote:
> > on 04/02/2001 20:42, Allen Cohen at SFORACLE@prodigy.net wrote:
> > Subject: Re: [sixties-l] (Fwd):Reparatiopns, DH & the Left
> Since it is important to put our Ciriculum Viritae on the table, so that
> we can work out how to resolve our class status prior to addressing which
> of us are the 'sons and daughters' of the 'rich kulaks' who should be
> purged, allow me to place this first, so that the correct concern can be
> levelled at which 'class bias' I bring to the table, prior to addressing
> the assumptions of the argument.
> My father started out as an 11-B humping an M-1 up the boot of italy,
> grandfather went in with pershing.... the draft dodger who fathered him
> missed out as we had no war he could attend, but his father fought for
> first the confederates and then the union forces, after the fed's busted
> the blockade runner that had rescued his german crew - but we do not want
> to go down the line that inherited this problem of getting busted by the
> feds as that way complicates matters. I could keep that line up through
> the glorious ancestors to our Frankish 'eurocentric culturally myopic'
> forfathers who were at Tours, and turned back the Islamic Jihaud of its day.
> My stepmother got her head cracked at selma marching with MLK before running
> off to be a social worker in watts, as was the trendy chic moment of young
> white liberals of the era, concerned about spreading the efficacy of liberal
> white guilt as the solution to the crisis of the era....
> But I hope that helps ground that while it was OK for those 'kennedy
> liberals' in New England to maintain the racist assumption
> German means Nazi
> and hence, that it was as equally relevant that I understand that 'we as
> white people' should not be associating with negroes - I of course, came
> to the discussion confused by my parental instructions that we, as G.I.
> Brats were a part of a community 'set apart' - a proposition that the nice
> white liberals in New England were willing to support, at the time, because,
> well, as we all know, anyone who was in anyway involved with the war in
> vietnam were a collection of rightwing death squading fascists. So when the
> candy-assed proto-RushLimbiots were confused by the fact that G.I. Brats did
> not get to choose their compatriots as 'liberally' as the nice white boys in
> new england - that I would make it clear that 'we stick together, we are
> family' - irregardless of race, creed, colour, religion, or affectional
> preference, because at the end of the day, we were G.I. Brats, and they
> would always be able to always be 'the locals'....
> So while they had half a chance of hoping that their fathers would be able
> to do for them as W's did for him, and DandyDanQuayle would do for him, and
> as Rush Limbaugh, and Gnewt Gingrich would be able to do the old fashion way
> by making it all up on the fly, whether with 2-S deferment or which ever is
> the correct story about how they missed 'the war' - some of us were destined
> to national service, because we were raised in those silly values of
> duty, honor, country
> and would execute on the 'liberal' rhetoric of
> Ask not what your country can do for you.....
> while the 'not the liberal intelligensia' were trying to find other avenues
> for implementing alternative strategies?????
> Do I get to litigate reparations from the nice white suburban
> SatOnTheirFaceCrowd who were not clear which of their 'ideals' they were
> willing to put their 'nuts in the grinder' to 'implement'????
> Or should I be nailed to the cross as an analyst, amongst the rest, for
> noting that it was not surprising, during the Yom Kippur War, that Gen
> Sharon would opt NOT to stay current in the literature, and would send his
> tanks forward without proper infantry support, to get slaughtered by the
> first generation soviet ATGM's - or merely not be as surprised that when he
> would find the conflict between 'political expedience' and his obligations
> under The Warriors Code, he would, well, what ever it was that actually
> happened in Beirut, when there was, what has become popular amongst liberals
> to refer to as 'ethnic cleansing' occured by forces with political
> allegiances, that would be as sacrificed in the breach, as the Montangard
> when the Americans would leave them hanging in the wind, when, as with the
> South Lebanese Army, it became impolite to extract them because of the shift
> in political expediency.....
> Or does that way complicate the moments for those who also, by right of
> birth, at sedar ask,
> "Father, father, why is tonight different from any other night...."
> and whether or not the simplistic racist policy of presuming that
> German equals Nazi
> is as valid outside of the new england 'liberal' goyim?
> So should I seek reparations from myself, because some of the bloodline
> comes from germany?
> Or, having, foolishly, opted to 'make a heap of all my winnings' meander
> off to the USofA, with $65 in my pocket, and the address of people from
> the old world, only to find at the 'employment office' - as they would be
> so nice, and polite, to warn me, "well you can apply there, but you do not
> have a chance, because they are 'under a court order'...." and hence I
> should again litigate myself for reparations since as a 'white person' I of
> course was the cause of my own inability to get the job I was qualified for,
> because, while the goyim were not clear about who to discriminate against,
> the liberal courts were sure that I should make sure that those who had a
> better case should get jobs.........
> Or should I litigate against myself, because, well, you know, there would
> be no drain on the tax payers, were we not funding the European Colonial
> Enclave in the middle east, if only those Jews were willing to adopt the
> correct implementation of the need of the Arab League to drive the Zionists
> back into the sea - and hence, of course, there would not be a ten plus year
> war with Iraq...... that of course it is impolite to remind 'civilians'
> about, since they were all so happy to have a 'beyond the vietnam syndrome'
> parade, dance, and way too cool time.... in spite of the fact that 'my
> family' is still putting up sorties, at tax payers expense..... even if
> the 'liberal intelligensia' - whom ever they are - can not recall if they
> are supporters of this ongoing war.....
> Maybe a part of the really ugly subtext of the failure of David Horowitz to
> stay 'true' to his 'radical leftists' positions, is that perchance some of
> the blithe naivete of the sixties suffers under the unkind light of mere
> analysis by the same tools that recently KILLED the whole dot.com craze and
> the mythological notions that this some how created a 'new economy' that was
> in some way 'unique' and free standing from the old economy, where we
> actually defined 'equity value' based upon the ratio of 'price per share'
> being associated to 'earnings per share' - and that within really dull and
> boring old fashion metrics that even Karl Marx - heb that he was, son of
> middle class parents, would understand - and that maybe so much of the
> sheer romanticism of the 'sixties' about 'alternative lifestyles' suffers
> under the same painful glare.....
> Why is it no longer polite to note that one of the more 'unpleasant' side
> effects of the whole 'integrationist strategy' has been that the 'white
> owned' corporations were able to hire the 'best and the brightests' of the
> negro community - and offer them the 'black flight' to the suburbs - that
> would give us the whole 'bill cosby show' "huckstable family" and that whole
> "fresh prince of bel air" TV sitcom vision of the USA which would as equally
> deprive the 'urban center' of their 'middle class' as the 'white flight to
> the burbs' also infected the american cities to the level that so many of
> the urban metroplex's would implement statuatory requirements that the civil
> servants of the metroplex actually had to LIVE in the cities that they
> served???? or are we all spacing out on that moment, as if these laws had
> been enacted in some mythical vacuum?????
> I can empathise with those who had to 'come up the hard way' and hence still
> support the need to maintain the old double standards of 'affirmative
> action' as the only way to save the likes of 'will smith' to get high paying
> jobs amongst the 'liberal hollywood elite' as, well, all those jews who
> would change their names and 'pass' as goyim - but do we really want to go
> through the whole myth system we have created about what happened in the
> 'last good war'????? Or only remember that part of the process that dealt
> with the 'internment camps' for the 'persons of japanese ancestry' and the
> needs of the round eyes to make their own hollywood films about how to tell
> the differences between japanese and the chinese, who were our allies,
> except for the Maoists, who were responsible for keeping the 'Gung Ho' film,
> with randolph scott, off the play list, because, well, some folks might
> actually be able to remember whom the '8th route army' had been....
> Come On kiddies - how long do we have to maintain the whole desperate need
> for nice white suburbanites to placate their need to feel superior?
> Maybe we might suggest that they have to hit the mark on their own merits
> or face the reality check that the economy may make choices based upon who
> is actually able to survive,
> 'irregardless of race, creed, colour, religion, or affectional
> Oh dear - but if we were to smack down 'whitey' with that radical agenda,
> maybe if we were as equally as 'colour blind' and to warn the rest that they
> would need to prove 'mere competence' - in the same old fashion way that
> most of the G.I. Brat community has been aware of for years,
> "dead men do not wear plaid"
> is not merely a good joke for 'steve martin fans' - but has the small
> and ungainly moment that some folks learn about how to survive war, even
> if it was unpopular amongst the 'hipsters in the USA', whether they lived
> in palestine, or chechnyna, or afghanistan, or Tchad, or .....
> Or as uncle drieux was so impolite as to note to two 'swave urbanites'
> "look kid, I was involved in civil rights
> when you mamma wouldn't allow you across the street...."
> might be as useful an excuse to oblige persons to stand on their own
> merits, just as the G.I. Brat community,
> irregardless of race, creed, colour, religion or affectional preference
> just like shrapnel and small arms fire.....
-- Ted Morgan Department of Political Science Lehigh University Maginnes Hall #9 Bethlehem, PA 18015 Phone: (610) 758-3345 Fax: (610) 758-6554
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