Re: [sixties-l] (Fwd):Reparatiopns, DH & the Left

From: Marty Jezer (
Date: Fri Apr 06 2001 - 10:48:32 EDT

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    I agree with one part of your comment. It is shameful that I, a Jew, can
    show up at Tel Aviv airport and become a citizen with full rights. As for
    the absolute right of return the issue is a lot more complex.
    Israel was legitimized by UN mandate. The Arabs rejected it and started the
    48 war which they lost.
    It's obvious that the Jewish military drove a lot, but not all, Palestinians
    out of the area that was Israel.
    It's no doubt a tragedy, especially the fact that the refugees was forced to
    live in camps, and, to be fair, the Arab nations were happy to have them
    there. The proposed settlement, while denying the right of return in
    absolute terms, did, I believe, allow some to return where families were
    involved. Others, who could prove displacement, would receive financial
    compensation. (The was to be worked out: had Arafat accepted Barak's
    proposal there would have been momentum to resolve this issue favorably for
    the Palestinians.)There is also the questions of the settlements. As I
    understand it the settlements within Gaza and the West Bank would have been
    removed (justice would dictate that everyone of them should be removed, by
    force if necessary, today); some on the border would have been allowed to
    stay. I oppose that but with a settlement their existence would have been
    negotiable. But the fact is the
    Palestinians would have had a state: why would they also want to repatriate
    to Israel when they could have their own country. The principle of right of
    return in the absolute sense is a Palestinian political
    ploy. People have been forced to relocate throughout history'; including I
    imagine Bill, your and my ancestors. A fair peaceful solution in the Middle
    East means there have to be compromises. Israel has to give up control of
    Jerusalem and its settlements (which they have), Palestinians have to give
    up the absolute right of return (which means giving up a principle, not an
    on-the-ground fact).


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    > A settlement that would have denied Palestinians the right to return to
    > their own homes, for which they have the keys, and their own land, for
    > which they have the deeds, while any Jew from anywhere who has never
    > been to Israel can go there and become a citizen, is one that you would
    > have the Palestinians accept? I don't like to use the phrase that
    > follows, but that is simply shameful.
    > William Mandel
    > Marty Jezer wrote:
    > >
    > >
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