Re: [sixties-l] Free speech issues

From: monkerud (
Date: Tue Mar 13 2001 - 23:45:15 EST

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    Bill that's what I thought... I thought the paper had been kicked off
    campus some time ago due to the University trying to control the content of
    the paper. Now it's being touted on this list as free speech issue...

    best, Don Monkerud

    >The UC/B paper is not run by the university. Bill Mandel
    >monkerud wrote:
    >> Because as a practical matter destroying newspapers so others won't read
    >> them and thus become "contaminated" by ideas, doesn't work, putting
    >> pressure on a newspaper not to run reactionary ads is done all the time in
    >> the US.
    >> While I agree with Michael that confiscating and burning newspapers reminds
    >> the public of the Nazis, I disagree that protesting racist and/or
    >> reactionary ads in college newspapers is a "right."
    >> Reactionary papers refuse ads and article from progressive forces all the
    >> time. This is not to say that it's morally right because they do it, but to
    >> say this is the way business is conducted.
    >> Protesting against the acceptance of such ads, boycotting the papers, etc.
    >> is a form of free speech that I support. But there may be legal issues ...
    >> does anyone have any knowledge of this? I don't believe the UC/B paper is
    >> run by the university? If it's run as a business, then it's fair game.
    >> This is politics, and basing politics on morality gets to be a touchy
    >> issue. I know people around here want to let the opposition into our
    >> meetings because they want to be seen as open and democratic, a moral
    >> stance, but the developers we fight don't let us into their meetings. Let's
    >> not make our job harder by creating moral pretzels.
    >> best, Don Monkerud
    >> At 9:39 PM -0500 3/9/01, wrote:
    >> >The CIA is a government agency. The Bill
    >> >of Rights was not written to protect the
    >> >government. It was written to enumerate
    >> >rights for the people. As I understand our
    >> >constitutional philosophy, governments have
    >> >powers, but not rights. Only individuals
    >> >have rights. For this reason, an argument
    >> >about abrogating the CIA's "rights" by not
    >> >allowing it to run an ad makes no sense.
    >> >For this reason, the slogan of "states' rights"
    >> >is also nonsensical.
    >> >
    >> >Horowitz, on the other hand, is an individual,
    >> >and has rights, even though leftists don't like
    >> >him. Since college newspapers enjoy support
    >> >from taxpayers' money, he has as much right
    >> >to run an ad there as anyone else, and those
    >> >who confiscate and burn newspapers which publish
    >> >opinions they disagree with are no better than
    >> >Nazis, even if they do call themselves "progressives."
    >> >
    >> > ~ Michael Wright
    >> > Norman, Oklahoma
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