Re: [sixties-l] after-afterthoughts

From: Ted Morgan (
Date: Mon Feb 05 2001 - 16:40:16 EST

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    Hi Charlotte,

    Thanks for sending me the list --it's great! And, how daring of you to be interviewed
    re. sexual practices in the 60s :>) --I know what you mean about not revealing all,
    though. Drugs seem to be the area my students are most curious about re.
    counterculture. Perhaps sexuality is even more daring! But I also don't spend a lot
    of time on the counterculture per se in my class --about a week & a half-- One thing I
    do is play a tape of very short excerpts from about 25-30 counterculture-era rock
    songs, asking them to listen for the feelings being expressed in the lyrics, then we
    talk together about what they come up with. It ends up providing interesting insights
    into the subjective feelings of being young at that time.

    I haven't done alot with the sexual experimentation that went on in the 60s in my own
    work, except for part of a chapter I wrote on the counterculture in my book (The
    Sixties Experience --Temple U.). But I'm now working on a book project (that's kind of
    overwhelming me with how ambitious it is!) on how the media culture interacted with 60s
    movements, helping to shape the trajectory of the decade and produce a set of images &
    texts now (well, for the last 25 years) commonly used to discredit the 60s, or at best
    'sell' them to young people (or nostagic oldies) today.... So, your stuff on movies'
    treatment fits my interest nicely, though your specific focus, on sexuality, etc. is
    narrower than mine.

    Interesting stuff. I'd be interested in reading something you've done in this latter
    Do you know Benjamin DeMott's new book (I just saw review in NYT) on something like the
    "masculinization" of women (not his words, I just can't remember) -basically how the
    culture has distorted feminism into something akin to behaving in an aggressive,
    'masculine' manner ?


    (holed up as about 12-15 inches of snow fall outside!)

    Charlotte Pagni wrote:

    > Ted-- Thanks for your comment about the interview assignment. It was
    > quite a successful exercise. Without revealing ALL my secrets, I even
    > invited the class to practice their interview questions on me!
    > Actually, I had previously posted the reading list to Rich, the original
    > inquirer, and posted the course description to the group by accident.
    > Anyway, in case you're interested, below is the VERY preliminary reading
    > list. I'm writing a dissertation about links between sexology and
    > mainstream cinema in the sixties --Hollywood Does Kinsey: Cinema, Sexology,
    > and Sexual Regulation; so I'd be intersted to know what work you do on the
    > sexual revolution.
    > Best from another child of the sixties,
    > Charlotte
    > Pagni AC Humanities Theme Course Proposal for Fall 2001: The Sexual
    > Revolution
    > Allyn, David: Make Love Not War
    > (New York: Little, Brown and Company, 2000).
    > Altman, Meryl: "Everything They Always Wanted You to Know: The Ideology of
    > Popular Sex Literature"
    > Pleasure and Danger: Exploring Female Sexuality, Carole S. Vance, ed.,
    > (Boston and London: Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1984), 115-30.
    > Angelou, Maya; Art Buchwald, Dyan Cannon, and Liberace: Interview Essays
    > Excerpts from The First Time, Karl Fleming and Anne Taylor Fleming, (New
    > York: Berkley Publishing Corp., 1975).
    > Boyers, Robert: "Attitudes Toward Sex in American 'High Culture'"
    > Sex and the Contemporary Scene, Annals of the American Academy of
    > Political and Social Science, Edward Sagarin, ed.,(March 1968), 36-52.
    > Bright, Susie: "Born-Again Virgin"
    > Susie Bright?s Sexual State of the Union, (New York: Simon and Schuster,
    > 1997), 73-81.
    > Brown, Helen Gurley: "Women Alone? Oh Come Now!"
    > Sex and the Single Girl, (New York: Bernard Geiss Associates, 1962), 3-11.
    > Connell, R.W.: "Sexual Revolution"
    > New Sexual Agendas, Lynne Segal, ed., (New York: New York University Press,
    > 1997), 60-76.
    > Cox, Harvey: "Playboy?s Doctrine of Male"
    > The Pop Culture Tradition: Readings with Analysis for Writing, Edward M.
    > White, ed., (New York: W.W. Norton, 1972), 16-21.
    > D?Acci, Julie: "Nobody?s Woman? honey west and the New Sexuality"
    > The Revolution Wasn?t Televised: Sixties Television and Social Conflict,
    > Lynn Spigel and Michael Curtin, eds., (New York and London: Routledge,
    > 1997), 72-93.
    > Dell?Olio, Anselma: "The Sexual Revolution Wasn?t Our War"
    > The First Ms. Reader, Francine Klagsbrun, ed., (New York: Warner Books,
    > Inc., 1973), 124-132.
    > D?Emilio, John and Estelle Freedman: "Sexual Revolutions," "The Sexualized
    > Society," and "The Contemporary Political Crisis"
    > Intimate Matters: A History of Sexuality in America, (New York: Harper &
    > Rowe, 1988), 301-60.
    > Dines, Gail: "I Buy It for the Articles; Playboy Magazine and the
    > Sexualization of Consumerism"
    > Gender, Race, and Class in Media: A Text-Reader, Gail Dines and Jean M.
    > Humez, eds., (Thousand Oaks: Sage, 1995), 254-62.
    > Douglas, Susan J.: "Sex and the Single Teenager"
    > Where the Girls Are: Growing up Female with the Mass Media, (New York:
    > Random House, 1994), 61-82.
    > Duggan, Lisa and Hunter, Nan D.: "Contextualizing the Sexuality Debates:
    > a Chronology"
    > Sex Wars: Sexual Dissent and Political Culture, Duggan and Hunter, eds.,
    > (New York and London: Routledge,1995), 16-29.
    > Dyer, Richard: "Seen to Be Believed: Some Problems in the Representation
    > of Gay People as Typical"
    > The Matter of Images: Essays on Representations, (London and New York:
    > Routledge, 1993), 19-51.
    > Ehrenreich, Barbara: "Playboy Joins the Battle of the Sexes"
    > The Hearts of Men: American Dreams and the Flight from Commitment, (New
    > York: Doubleday, 1983), 42-51.
    > Ehrenreich, Barbara: "Up from the Valley of the Dolls: The Origins of the
    > Sexual Revolution"
    > Re-Making Love: The Feminization of Sex, Barbara Ehrenreich, Elizabeth
    > Hess, and Gloria Jacobs, (New York: Doubleday, 1986), 39-73.
    > Ferdinand, Theodore N.: "Sex Behavior and the American Class Structure:
    > A Mosaic"
    > Sex and the Contemporary Scene, Annals of the American Academy of Political
    > and Social Science, Edward Sagarin, ed.,(March 1968) 76-85.
    > Friedan, Betty: "The Problem That Has No Name"
    > Social Theory: The Multicultural and Classic Readings, Charles Lemert, ed.
    > (Boulder: Westview Press, 1993), 387-390.
    > Hall, Stuart: "Regulation: Governing Cultures"
    > Media and Cultural Regulation, Kenneth Thompson, ed., (London and
    > Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage Publications, 1997), 227-236.
    > Holmes, John Clellon: "Revolution Below the Belt"
    > Playboy: Sex American Style, Frank Robinson and Nat Lehrman, eds.
    > (Chicago: Playboy Press, 1971), 2-29.
    > Irvine, Janice M.: "Introduction" to Disorders of Desire: Sex and Gender in
    > Modern American Sexology
    > Philadelphia: Temple University Press, 1990), 1-23.
    > Kellner, Douglas: "Reading Images Critically: Toward a Postmodern Pedagogy"
    > Gender, Race and Class in Media: A Text-Reader, Gail Dines and Jean M.
    > Humez, eds., (Thousand Oaks: Sage, 1995), 126-132.
    > Martin, Dell and Lyon, Phyllis: "Lesbian Love and Sexuality"
    > The First Ms. Reader, Francine Klagsbrun, ed., (New York: Warner Books,
    > Inc., 1973), 135-144.
    > Medovoi, Leerom: "A Yippie-Panther Pipe Dream: Rethinking Sex, Race, and the
    > Sexual Revolution"
    > Swinging Single: Representing Sexuality in the 1960s, Hillary Radner and
    > Moya Luckett, eds., (Minneapolis and London: University of Minnesota
    > Press, 1999), 133-178.
    > Money, John: "The Sexual Revolution: A Manifesto"
    > Reprinted from Forum in The Journal of Human Relations; Forum International
    > Ltd., 1978.
    > Padgug, Robert: "Sexual Matters: On Conceptualizing Sexuality in History"
    > Radical History Review 20, (Spring/Summer 1979), 3-23.
    > Poussaint, Alvin F.: "Blacks and the Sexual Revolution"
    > Black Scholar: Journal of Black Studies and Research 2:4 (April1978) 38-42.
    > Rosenberg, Bernard and Bensmen, Joseph: "Sexual Patterns in Three
    > Ethnic Subcultures of an American Underclass"
    > Sex and the Contemporary Scene, Annals of the Academy of Political and
    > Social Science 376 (March 1968), 76-85.
    > Ross, Ellen and Rayna Rapp: "Sex and Society: A Research Note from Social
    > History and Anthropology"
    > Powers of Desire: The Politics of Sexuality, Ann Snitow, Christine
    > Stansell, and Sharon Thompson, eds., (New York: Monthly Review Press,
    > 1983), 51-73.
    > Roy, Rustum and Della: "Is Monogamy Outdated?"
    > The New Sexual Revolution, Lester A. Kirkendall and Robert N. Whitehurst,
    > eds., (New York: Donald W. Brown, Inc,1971), 131-148.
    > Segal, Lynne: "Feminist Sexual Politics and the Heterosexual Predicament"
    > New Sexual Agendas, Lynne Segal, ed., (New York: New York University Press,
    > 1997), 77-89.
    > Smigel, Erwin O. and Seiden, Rita: "The Decline and Fall of the Double
    > Standard"
    > Sex and the Contemporary Scene, Annals of the American Academy of
    > Political and Social Science, Edward Sagarin, ed.,(March 1968) 6-17.
    > Weeks, Jeffrey: "Sexual Values Revsited"
    > New Sexual Agendas, Lynne Segal, ed., (New York: New York University Press,
    > 1997), 43-59.
    > Playboy 1955--Naked advertising.
    > Color 1953: Are Negroes more sexy than whites?
    > Ebony--Why Negro women are not in the Kinsey Report.
    > Personal Romances 1-54: The Kinsey Report--Will it change your moral
    > standards?
    > Redbook 10-62: Sex on the campus: the real issue [Margaret Mead].
    > Today's Woman 3-52: New light on the unhappy wife.
    > Look 2-4-58: American male: Why do women dominate him?
    > Coronet 11-55: Third sex--Guilt or sickness?
    > Saturday Review 6-23-56: Sexual behavior in the American movie.
    > Miami Herald 4-7-64: Campus call of Freud and Kinsey.
    > Esquire 1972: What is the new impotence, and who's got it?
    > Time 1964: The second sexual revolution.
    > SUPPORT MATERIALS (Period and Contemporary)
    > Print
    > Documents from film and Kinsey Institute archives; popular sexology books;
    > magazine and newspaper articles; pulp and erotic literature.
    > Graphic
    > Advertisements; fine art; cartoons; book jacket graphics; product and home
    > design.
    > Audio
    > Popular musical recordings (girl groups, Motown, Beatles, rock, blues and
    > jazz, dance novelty).
    > Audiovisual (VHS Video Format)
    > Numerous film and television clips; movie trailers; one or two
    > feature-length films; two or three complete television shows; documentary
    > footage; sex education films; activist videos; erotic films and videos.
    > Sample of featured mainstream film titles: Peyton Place (1957); Where the
    > Boys Are (1960); College Confidential (1960); Beach Party (1963); Sex and
    > the Single Girl (1964); Boys? Night Out (1962); The Chapman Report (1962);
    > James Bond series; Bob&Carol&Ted&Alice (1969); Everything You always Wanted
    > to Know About Sex... (1972). Featured television shows: honey west
    > (1965-66); Burke?s Law (1963-65).
    > --On Saturday, February 3, 2001 1:19 PM -0500 Ted Morgan <>
    > wrote:
    > > Two comments on unrelated posts --thanks to Ron Jacobs for passing along
    > > the much-needed update to Phil Och's "Love Me I'm a Liberal."
    > >
    > > And I liked Charlotte's assignment in her Sex. Rev. class and wonder why
    > > I never thought of having students do something like that to get back
    > > into the personal space of the 'counterculture' (for want of a better
    > > word) that their parents' generation grappled with. I've done something
    > > similar with interviewing people about the war & military service and it
    > > has often produced some marvelous family connections (e.g., fathers and
    > > uncles 'opening up' to their kids about an area they've kept silent
    > > about). Nice idea!
    > > Ted Morgan
    > >
    > > Charlotte Pagni wrote:
    > >
    > >> Dear Rich,
    > >>
    > >> Forgot to send you my Sex Rev course description and unit outline; find
    > >> them below. When I taught an English Composition course on the theme of
    > >> the sexual revolution, I had particular success with the
    > >> cross-generational interview assignment.

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