Re: [sixties-l] Re: coup coup coup

From: William M. Mandel (wmmmandel@earthlink.net)
Date: 12/21/00

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    I agree with you totally about "fascist" and have been actively combatting loose
    use of that term. I don't see "slavery" used that much, but agree there as well.
    But I don't understand why "coup" requires arms. Provide me a widely-applicable
    definition.
    
    Bill Mandel
    
    Jesse Lemisch wrote:
    
    > C'mon, Bill: a coup without the use of (or even threatened use of) arms? Why
    > should such a wise fellow as yourself contribute to this dead-end notion,
    > which obscures just what it is that we are fighing against? If everything
    > bad is a "coup," or "fascist," or "slavery," etc. -- the we have no way of
    > comprehending and fighting the originals.
    >
    > Jesse Lemisch
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: William M. Mandel <wmmmandel@earthlink.net>
    > To: <sixties-l@lists.village.virginia.edu>
    > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:04 AM
    > Subject: Re: [sixties-l] Re: coup coup coup
    >
    > > Why does a coup have to take the form it took in Chile? The American
    > people
    > > voted for one man, and the other candidate's governor brother led the
    > finagling
    > > of the process of barring people from voting in the latter's state, while
    > the
    > > Supreme Court violated its own stated principles against judicial
    > activism, as
    > > well as logic and common sense, to give the loser the presidency. I voted
    > > Nader.              Bill Mandel
    > >
    > > Jesse Lemisch wrote:
    > >
    > > > As I've mentioned before, it pollutes our comprehension of reality, and
    > > > blocks our ability to deal with reality, to call what's been happening a
    > > > "coup." (Pro-Clinton propagandists, including some academic flacks,
    > earlier
    > > > referred to the impeachment as a "coup.") It in no way implies that this
    > > > country is without horrors to point out that this isn't Chile.
    > > >
    > > > Jesse Lemisch
    > > >
    



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