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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 17:34:57 -070
From: Joe McDonald <joe@countryjoe.com>
Subject: Re: [sixties-l] Horowitz vs. Blanfort
I got no dog in this fight but isn't Jeffrey's last name Blankfort? So
shouldn't it be Horowitz vs. Blankfort rather than "Blanfort". Hallo?! Is
anyone there? Maybe it should be called the sixties lisp. Or is it the old
"whatever" which seems to aptly express our helplessness in the 21st
century. cheers, centry jo mcdonal
sixties@lists.village.virginia.edu wrote:
> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:57:20 -0700
> From: David Horowitz <Dhorowitz@earthlink.net>
>
> > > > Perhaps, Jeffrey, middle-age has made plain English difficult for
> you . Of course I answered your question. You just didn't understand the
> answer and never will. There is more liberty and justice for all in
> America than there has been anywhere in the world at any time. That's why
> the only people leaving America are alienated adolescents (like yourself).
> Black, brown and other minorities are not leaving. And it's not for lack
> of carfare (really Jeffrey, you have to do better than this). It's because
> they realize they are better off here and have more rights here ... etc.
> > > > > > To try to explain this great material and spiritual wealth, as
> you do, by references to "colonial exploitation" and "imperialism" is,
> well, just another indication that you have learned nothing in the last
> forty years. Have you noticed the great flowering of economic prosperity
> and personal liberty and justice in Africa since its decolonization in
> 1960? Can you explain why independent and socialist Cuba, which is a
> tropical island subsidized by three Marshall-size Plans (by Russia) and
> which has been trading continuously with every nation in the world except
> the United States since 1959 is poorer now than it was in 1959? Do you
> have a good reason why Mexico which had its revolution in 1910 and
> nationalized its oil in 1940 should be so poor, so corrupt and lacking in
> basic human rights, while Canada, a small country bordering America and no
> doubt a target of American investment should be doing so well? Did it ever
> occur to you that Hong Kong is the quintessential neo-colony while
> its inhabitants enjoy the highest standard of living in Asia? Did you ever
> think about the difference in the economic destinies of South Korea and
> North Korea, the one a client of the United States which in 1950 had a per
> capita income of $250 and was on par with Cuba, and is now one of the
> industrial powers of the world? Do you think that the trillions in wealth
> that Microsoft has generated comes out of the sweat of the working class?
> Really, Jeffrey, Marxism is so passe.
> > > > > > > Finally, what
> desperation makes you accuse me of "racism" because I said that that young
> people are idealistic and naive? Do you ever consider how progressives
> like you resemble nothing so much as neo-McCarthyites seeing racists,
> instead of reds, under every bed?). The fact that your students are poor,
> is only the beginning for them in a country where they are only limited by
> what's in their heads. It's too bad for these kids that they have someone
> like you stuffing tme with the very prejudice that will keep them poor.
> But then, why should that bother you? Your kids can tell their kids that
> the white male devil did it to them.
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