Re: [sixties-l] on selling out

From: Ted Morgan (
Date: Mon Sep 04 2000 - 02:58:58 CUT

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    Can you enlighten us on what you mean by "revolution?" What does it look like?? I
    agree on the necessity of transforming and transcending capitalism, eradicating
    imperialism, etc.... but the term revolution typically connotes a violent overthrow of
    a repressive government. Is that your reference?

    Ted Morgan

    doug norberg wrote:

    > Just because many mis-gauged the era and its immediate possibilities does not mean
    > that the belief in the necessity of revolution was incorrect. Only revolution can
    > bring an end to capitalism, neo-colonialism, and imperialism. Reform, or
    > "incremental vision," will never achieve those goals, not in many lifetimes.
    > Rather than abandon the large goals, as some on the list are advocating or are
    > apologizing for, it is essential to see them in a larger time frame, as well as in
    > a global context, and proceed in the long-term building of
    > communities/cultures/politics of resistance and revolution. Giving those goals up
    > for a dime or for a glorified moment of fame as an academic- or journalistic- or
    > reminiscent writer-"expert on rebellion" or advocate of minimalist reform in some
    > demagogic pseudo-populist's political machine is betrayal.
    > Doug Norberg
    > William M Mandel wrote:
    > > It also helps to remember that, when you dropped out whenever the Sixties ended
    > > for you, it was because, unknowingly, you aimed too high. You thought that a
    > > revolution was possible. It wasn't, however you defined it. So now you know you
    > > have to work incrementally, or, as some put it, for "proximate ends."
    > >
    > > William Mandel
    > >
    > > Michael Garrison wrote:
    > >
    > > > One psychological technique that I have found useful in considering the
    > > > "sell out" and/or "compromise" problem for 60's people is the "Bounce-Back"
    > > > theory.

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