i am sorry for everything i said Jeffrey Blankfort: you know about Native Americans. you
know about my Mother Florence McDonald. you know about American Flags. i bet you know a lot
about sexism too? share it with us please.
How has the 60's changed the 21st century for women? my mother was a woman. one half of
Native Americans are women. Lots of people on this list are women.
i for one am ready to give up my male "power". i find myself making myself sick with my own
male bull shit. you are right and i am wrong. i am proud of the way i wash dishes. i am
proud of changing my childrens diapers. i hate politics. i love music. i like to think my
music did some good.
cheers, country joe mcdonald
Jeffrey Blankfort wrote:
> Joe, you were at least proud enough about your grabbing that flag away
> from its would-be burners that you felt the list should know about it.
> Frankly, what those folks wanted to do with it was really not your
> business. And please don't use as a justification for your action,
> Native Americans, whose ancestors' genocide was carried out under that
> flag, and who due to the destruction of their nations' cultures and
> economies that followed, ironically, found service in the US military
> their only survival solution.
> Please do not place my opinion of your mother with that of Horowitz for
> you insult her memory and the respect that I had for her by doing so.
> You may say that you have known all that I have been talking about since
> you were 10, and I would have believed that during the period of your
> anti-war work, which was a key part of that movement, but this and other
> posts that I have read on this list convince me that somewhere along the
> way, you've lost it. I mean, tying a yellow ribbon a tree when the US
> went off to annihilate Iraq, is not something, I think, your mother
> would have either done or condoned.
> With respect,
> Jeff Blankfort
> > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:46:31 -0700
> > From: Joe McDonald <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > Subject: Re: [sixties-l] Re: sixties-l-Re Vietnam Memorial
> > well golly Jeffrey Blankfort you sure got a slow fuse. i never said i "proudly
> > defend"ed anything. Remember i said IT DON'T MEAN SHIT!
> > But i reacted instinctually not rationally with not wanting to see a flag burned out or
> > respect for those who died for or as native american warriors say "behind" the flag.
> > It seems not only David Horowitiz but you too are an expert on my momma and what she
> > believed. i don't think so. i know all of what yer talking about since i was 10 years
> > old.
> > Some good old boys tolerate me but you are mixing things up a bit. "honor the warrior
> > not the war" puts me right in with the Vietnam Veterans Against the War group, you
> > betcha! Honor the flag,well i donno about that. i did tie a yellow ribbon on the tree
> > in front of my house when my nephew went off with the airborne to the Persian Gulf and
> > kept it there until, thank god, he came back home. But we dont hang flags or burn
> > flags at my house.
> > As far as trying to be "holy" i got nothing to prove and "holy" is a strange word to
> > use to someone who is not religious at all. Remember i was raised by Communist
> > Atheists and unlike Mr Hororwitz have yet to "denounce" my parents and their beliefs.
> > Things are often not what they seem. i just happen to believe in "respect" and civility
> > how bout you?
> > As far as holes are concerned we are all in the same hole, make a lttle room eh, its
> > crowded in here.
> > cheers, country joe mcdonald
> > Jeffrey Blankfort wrote:
> > > I preface my response to Joe McDonald's defense of the
> > > US flag and flags, in general, because it is the US flag that he so
> > > proudly defends from the fire of legitimate protest that symbolizes the
> > > genocidal sanctions that have been carried out under a UN Security
> > > Council that is virtually in the pocket of whatever administration is in
> > > place in Washington.
> > >
> > > Frankly, Joe, I think you have to take some time out and study the same
> > > history that informed and inspired your mother
> > >
> > > Yeah, honor the warrior and honor the flag. That puts you right there
> > > with "the god old boys."
> > >
> > > When you tried to be the holiest of the holiest, Joe, you end up digging
> > > yourself into a hole.
> > >
> > > Jeff Blankfort
-- "Ira Furor Brevis Est " - Anger is a brief madness
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