Re: [sixties-l] Re:Vietnam War

From: Ronald M. Jacobs (
Date: Wed Jun 14 2000 - 20:54:56 CUT

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    Regarding the "arguments" Horowitz makes concerning Vietnam: the reason
    (as Ted M. stated) 2.5 million Vietnamese people died was not becasue the
    antiwar movement demanded a withdrawal, it was becasue the war machinery
    of the United Staes and its allies killed them, plain and simple. If our
    call for a withdrawal had been heeded in 1967 or 1968 (even 1969) several
    hundred thousand Vietnamese (and arguably Cambodians) would not have
    died. The myth that it was the media and the antiwar movement which
    caused the US defeat is exactly that-a myth. A major fact remains that
    ruling elites in the US could not agree on how to run the war without
    nuclear weapons and, although NIxon/Kissinger seriously considered doing
    so, cooler heads prevailed in the wake of the major protests in Fall
    1969. The primary evil power in the world (if one is to get
    moralistic) should be measured by the number of evil acts undertaken by
    its political and military machinery and, while the 20th century certainly
    had more than its share of contenders for this title, it's seems pretty
    certain that the US (especially in the post WW II era) will get quite a
    few votes, probably a third place finish after Stalin's USSR and Hitler's
    Reich (although some might give third to Mao's China in sheer tems of its
    apparent barbarity. (The US system of empire is much more insidious and
    consequently seems less sadistic to the casual observe).
    Blaming the antiwar movement for the blodbath in Vietnam is a bit like
    blaming those who opposed HItler's Reich in the 19030s in Germany for the
    camps and slaughter that occurred therein. Or like Ronald reagan laying a
    wreath at the SS cemetery in Bitburg and telling the worl that the members
    of the SS were "victims" too......
    -ron jacobs

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