Re: [sixties-l] Re: The Black Panthers (Horowitz reply)

From: Michael Klonsky (
Date: Tue Jun 13 2000 - 01:47:45 CUT

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    Sure you like the pacifist Dr. King, the nice Dr. King. After he died, everyone
    liked Dr. King--the harmless icon. But what about the outlaw Dr. King? The radical,
    internationalist Dr. King who militantly opposed the war in Vietnam as racist and
    genocidal--the war that you now defend because it was anti-communist? And if you
    liked him so much, where is your condemnation of the FBI and COINTELPRO that
    hounded King and probably took direct part in his murder, along with panthers,
    Malcolm X, Hampton and hundreds of others. If you are against the internecine
    warfare within the heavily infiltrated BPP, fine. But you seem to find satisfaction
    in Huey's degradation and the bloodletting there because you think it will help you
    win an argument with some of your radical ex-friends. There you only degrade
    Klonsky wrote:

    > Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:31:43 -0700
    > From: David Horowitz <>
    > CC: richard poe <>
    > Subject: Re: [sixties-l] Re: The Black Panthers
    > Funny, I've re-read everything I've written as preparation for answering this,
    > and the only simple polarization of the world into the forces of good and evil
    > I can find is in this letter of yours Mike. In fact I have only recently
    > published a book, Hating Whitey and Other Progressive Causes, praising King and
    > re-affirming my commitment to the principles he stood for as against my former
    > comrades on the left who have chosen to betray those principles and support the
    > kind of racial preferences -- privilege by skin color -- that was the
    > foundation of the segregationist system in the American south and the apartheid
    > system in South Africa.
    > wrote:
    > > > From: Michael Klonsky <>
    > > > Subject: Re: [sixties-l] Re: The Black Panthers
    > > >
    > > > Horowitz' view of the world is simple. There are the criminals, ie. Fred
    > > > Hampton and Panthers, Malcolm X ("Any means necessary"), Dr. King
    > > > (dozens of arrests and convictions), Nelson Mandela (ANC killed many),
    > > > John Brown, Zapatistas, and Weatherman....and the
    > > > anti-criminals...States Atty Hanrahan (murdered Fred), FBI (killed
    > > > King?), CIA, South African regime (caught jailed the criminal Mandela),
    > > > feds hung the criminal Brown who believed in ending slavery By Any Means
    > > > Necessary (did he read The Prince?)...and Horowitz is clearly on the
    > > > side of law and order. It took the poets of the 60's to muddy up
    > > > Horowitz' paradigm and show criminal cops and sinning saints.
    > > > Mike Klonsky
    > > >
    > > > Art McGee wrote:
    > > >
    > > <modr8r snip>
    > >
    > > modr8r note:
    > > again, folks, another plea to excise any extraneous text that is not
    > > essential to your post. the subject header does nicely in maintaining the
    > > continuity of the thread for the archives. there is no reason to take up
    > > extra bandwidth and archival memory by including the entire message you are
    > > responding to. thanks for your help with this!

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