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[1] From: skrause@emich.edu (16)
Subject: re 17.240 critical reflections on publishing
[2] From: norman@astro.gla.ac.uk (46)
Subject: re 17.232 critical reflections on publishing (fwd)
[3] From: Norman Hinton <hinton@SPRINGNET1.COM> (5)
Subject: Re: 17.240 critical reflections on publishing
[4] From: "Luigi M Bianchi" <lbianchi@yorku.ca> (11)
Subject: Re: 17.240 critical reflections on publishing
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:54:48 +0100
From: skrause@emich.edu
Subject: re 17.240 critical reflections on publishing
I'm sort of surprised that this link hasn't been brought up yet, so I guess
I'll be the one to do it:
While clearly archiving of materials on the web is a major problem, there
are lots of people who are working quite hard at solving this problem. The
best example is the Internet Archive, which is at
http://www.archive.org/ They have a neat little feature called "The
Wayback Machine" which allows you to search through their various
generations of their database that reaches back to 1996. It is certainly
far from perfect, but it also has a lot of web sites in it that return
"404s" or significant changes from what you were expecting. And I think
it's a fun interface to play around with, too.
--Steve
Steven D. Krause
Associate Professor, Department of English Language and Literature
614 G Pray-Harrold Hall * Eastern Michigan University
Ypsilanti, MI 48197 * http://krause.emich.edu
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:56:29 +0100
From: norman@astro.gla.ac.uk
Subject: re 17.232 critical reflections on publishing (fwd)
[Apologies for the loss of the following, which has just been resent.
Please stay vigilant! --WM]
Greetings,
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Humanist Discussion Group (by way of Willard
McCarty <willard.mccarty@kcl.ac.uk>) wrote:
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> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 06:34:00 +0100
> From: Dene Grigar <dene@eaze.net>
> [...]
> I too have had online research destroyed by my university, but it was not
> the net that made the materials disappear but decision-makers from the
> ITS department and the upper administration looking for ways to
"secure" the
> university system. Allowing faculty to run servers with open ports was
> not optimum. So, they closed me down.
And quite right too! Campus computer-services personnel need a little
defending from time to time, and securing the network is probably the
most important part of what they do. Amateur-maintained web servers are
one of the threats to that security, and to the machines of other people
on that network. By `amateur' I simply mean someone who does not spend
their waking hours being paranoid about networking stacks and firebridges,
which means anyone who actually has other work to do.
Plagues like Sobig, Nachi and Nimda (the last of which attacked
Windows web servers) mean that the spring of do-it-yourself servers is
probably over. This is inconvenient or infuriating for all of us, but
such policing is part of the collateral damage of such virus and worm
attacks. So I'm not attacking Dene, here -- the machine she manages
may be admirably robust -- but bewailing this next step in the net's
arch from wilderness to goldtown to sheriff to ... silicon valley?
In any case, the digital library movement is all about providing services
for the folk who are producing the content. These services are not
just indexing and delivery, but also the other aspects to this thread:
format migration, backups, and reliably secure servers.
> Needless to say, I own my own server now. It sits here on my home office
> and no university official can make policy over it. The bottom line is:
> it is not the net at fault most times, but the humans running pieces of
> the net affecting our work.
And I hope your home machine, Sheriff Dene, is patched and firewalled with
fanatical consistency: if it's attacked, broken, and used to relay spam,
then that's going to affect _my_ work; now _you're_ one of the humans
running pieces of the net.
Best wishes,
Norman (Gray)
-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Gray http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/norman/ Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK norman@astro.gla.ac.uk--[3]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:57:03 +0100 From: Norman Hinton <hinton@SPRINGNET1.COM> Subject: Re: 17.240 critical reflections on publishing
Alas ! a typo for "does" that I did not notice and of course the spell checker did not query. Very sorry. You will notice, I hope, that it is not a sentence as it stands, nor do I have any idea what the phrase "Web dopes" might mean.
"I realize the WEb dopes not use floppies"
--[4]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:57:37 +0100 From: "Luigi M Bianchi" <lbianchi@yorku.ca> Subject: Re: 17.240 critical reflections on publishing
Robert Kraft is almost right: most current browsers have stopped supporting the gopher protocol. But there are important exceptions. Mozilla, for example, which took me to <gopher://ccat.sas.upenn.edu> without flinching.
Luigi M Bianchi
Luigi M Bianchi Science and Technology Studies Room 2048 TEL Building York University, 4700 Keele St, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M3J-1P3 phone: +1 (416) 736-2100 x-30104 fax: +1 (416) 736-5188 mail: lbianchi@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/sasit/sts/
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