15.407 the living dead on WWW

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                   Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 15, No. 407.
           Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London

             Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 08:30:25 +0000
             From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@kcl.ac.uk>
             Subject: the living dead on WWW

      From the Free Online Scholarship newsletter

    >From: Peter Suber <peters@earlham.edu>
    >>Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 12:51:45 -0500
    > Welcome to the Free Online Scholarship (FOS) Newsletter
    > December 5, 2001
    >The living dead problem
    >In the November 27 _Los Angeles Times_, David Colker points out that
    >sensitive information removed from the web to keep it from terrorists is
    >still available in many web archives (e.g. the Wayback Machine) and search
    >engine caches (e.g. Google's).
    >David Colker, The Web Never Forgets
    >Chris Sherman deserves credit for making the same point as early as
    October 9.
    >The difficulty of total deletion of net content is only a problem for
    >information that lends itself to abuse, like open discussions of security
    >gaps at nuclear power plants. But for valuable content like FOS, it's a
    >boon. The difficulty of total deletion is really a proof-of-concept for
    >LOCKSS (Lots of Copies Keeps Stuff Safe), a strategy for long-term
    >preservation that systematically caches content in a self-correcting P2P
    >network. See FOSN for 6/25/01.
    >The difficulty of total deletion has one more benefit for FOS. If you put
    >an unrefereed preprint of your work on the web, well before the moment
    >when you might assign the copyright to a journal, and then later publish a
    >revised or unrevised version in a journal, the journal may ask you to
    >remove the preprint from the web. You needn't comply; but even if you try
    >to do so, the preprint will almost certainly survive in some freely
    >accessible form. A recent thread of the September98 forum discussed the
    >effect of this phenomenon on copyright negotiations.
    >Thread name, "Copyright: Form, Content, and Prepublication Incarnations"
    >(The topic is more explicit later in the thread than earlier.)
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