Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 14, No. 555. Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London <http://www.princeton.edu/~mccarty/humanist/> <http://www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/humanist/> [1] From: Eric Johnson <johnsone@jupiter.dsu.edu> (30) Subject: John Henry Newman [2] From: lachance@chass.utoronto.ca (Francois Lachance) (73) Subject: Re: 14.0552 corporate universities [3] From: Randall Pierce <rpierce@jsucc.jsu.edu> (6) Subject: The Corporate University --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:58:57 +0000 From: Eric Johnson <johnsone@jupiter.dsu.edu> Subject: John Henry Newman Robert J. O'Hara asked about the source of a quotation: something to the effect that a university is "an Alma Mater, knowing her children one by one, and not a factory, or a mint, or a treadmill." (If Cardinal Newman were around today, he would no doubt add that it is not a McDonalds or a Pizza Hut, either.) O'Hara was correct in supposing that the quotation is from Cardinal Newman's _The Idea of a University_. The exact quotation is this: "A University is, according to the usual designation, an Alma Mater, knowing her children one by one, not a foundry, or a mint, or a treadmill." It is at the end of section 8 of Discourse VI. As I said in an online conference paper, Newman's thoughts are also relevant to teaching via Internet. In 1854, John Henry Newman argued that a university education must be gained in classrooms, and that books were not an adequate substitute for face-to-face contact with a teacher. What he said of books is true of Internet teaching: "No [Internet teaching] can get through the number of minute questions which it is possible to ask on any extended subject, or can hit upon the very difficulties which are severally felt by each [student] in succession. Or again, that no [Internet teaching] can convey the special spirit and delicate peculiarities of its subject with that rapidity and certainty which attend on the sympathy of the mind with mind, through the eyes, the look, the accent, and the manner, in casual expressions thrown off at the moment, and the unstudied turns of familiar conversation . . . . The general principles of any study you may learn by [Internet teaching] at home; but the detail, the color, the tone, the air, the life which makes it live in us, you must catch all these from those in whom it lives already." ("The Rise and Progress of Universities") --Eric Johnson johnsone@jupiter.dsu.edu http://www.dsu.edu/~johnsone/ --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:59:11 +0000 From: lachance@chass.utoronto.ca (Francois Lachance) Subject: Re: 14.0552 corporate universities Willard, Leo Klein's anecdote about poetry being essential to programmers reminds me of Scoville's "Elements of Style: UNIX as literature" (for knowledge of which I am thankful to Patrick Durusau's posting to Humanist in 1998). Just for the record > In Humanist 14.0506 Francois Lachance finds in my posting [...] It was the juxtapositon of your posting with Leo's that made me find (invent?) the assumptions that kicked off my mediation. [Digression: Tis rathering interesting that manuscript studies are focussing upon what goes with what -- the contingencies of collecting and binding. To quote a pamphlet from the Perdita project: "Recent scholarship has recommend a shift in the focus of manuscript research from the establishment of 'authoritative' texts to the historical circumstances of manscript compilation and circulation. [...] Manuscript compilations offer particular problems of interpretation." More information on the Perdita Project is accessible from the following URL http://human.ntu.ac.uk/perdita To what extent bundles of electronic postings can be considered collections governed by conventions remains an open question. ] Reflecting upon your example of an institution re-aligning its program, I still do not quite understand how a discourse that stresses difference will manage to set aside the impact of affect, allegiance and prejudice in any intended decision-making audience in a social enviroment driven by imperatives of change, innovation, reinvention. I am trying to suggest that the very invocation of a substantial difference between practice and theory, between the liberal and mechanical arts, is a driver in the push to rationalize the educational system. I'm not sure that a discourse of difference will create the necessary inter-institutional alliances that will sport resistence. Arguing for the necessity of diversity at the level of a system may be a way to mitigate the competition induced the economics of scarity being played by the purse string holders. Arguing for a robust redundancy may be a better strategy. Not only should the system afford duplication of programs. It is vital that such duplication be created and maintained in order to establish the critical mass of people and activity that leads to inspiring accomplishments. How do you fund a network? Stephen Erhmann in "Asking the Right Question: what does research tell us about technology and higher learning?" http://www.learner.org/edtech/rscheval/rightquestion.html points out "that most institutions of higher education are facing a Triple Challenge of outcomes, accessibility, and costs." Somewhere someone must have proposed that greater accessibility drives down costs because a more accessible system leads to a more educated population creates greater wealth which can subsidize the educational system. Somewhere some economist has such traced synergistic relations. Everywhere there are people without children who enthusiastically support schools (and do not mind paying taxes to do so). Everywhere there are people with children who support school systems that provide adult education. There is a non-eschatological argument that justifies the funding of a strong educational infrastructure not from what people will do with an education, not from what they will become, but from what people are doing while they are in the process of active learning. Some while ago, Willard, you posted a message to Humanist that invited us to think about each machine being an experiment, each program being an experiment. Can the global economy afford not to invest in experiments? I know this has shifted the question somewhat from the focus on commercial interests in the educational sector. [I'm still avoiding some of the initial terminology : I've yet to find a university that is not a corporation.] I hope the shift helps bring to the debate a recognition that information technology can help institutions with a great experiment in profit sharing and reinvestment -- a redistribution of intellectual wealth if you will. The value of the publicly-accountable and stable nodes in such a distribution network depends in part on the volitility of the private providers (and the non-transparency of their operations). BTW, many of the graduates from the publicly-accountable and stable nodes will seek and find employment in the more volitile spaces. What then of arguments based on difference? -- Francois Lachance, Scholar-at-large http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~lachance Member of the Evelyn Letters Project http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~dchamber/evelyn/evtoc.htm --[3]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:59:50 +0000 From: Randall Pierce <rpierce@jsucc.jsu.edu> Subject: The Corporate University In his biography of his grandfather, the late Alabama Congressman George Huddleston, George Packer has some interesting insights into the origins of today's "Corporate Universities". On pages of 196-201 of "Blood of the Liberals", Mr. Packer cites the contributions of Frederick Terman to the creation of a corporate mentality at Stanford University in California and his influence in the development of Silicon Valley. Thank you for your consideration. Randall
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