Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 14, No. 446. Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London <http://www.princeton.edu/~mccarty/humanist/> <http://www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/humanist/> [1] From: lachance@chass.utoronto.ca (Francois Lachance) (30) Subject: heroes of humility [2] From: "Osher Doctorow" <osher@ix.netcom.com> (10) Subject: Re: Hero worship, AI, and robotics --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 06:56:56 +0000 From: lachance@chass.utoronto.ca (Francois Lachance) Subject: heroes of humility Willard, Would you care to elaborate on the argument you put forth below. I am puzzled. Is always the case that admiration passes through similitude before arriving at action? > > > Science. One of the great biographies must be Constance Reid's Hilbert (NY: > Springer Verlag, 1996). Yet I find its great-man worshipful tone to be > cloying as well as utterly unnecessary. It seems to me that this does no > service nor real honour to a truly great mathematician -- because it tends > to suggest that the person is not one of us, which conveniently releases us > from responsibility to become what we find to admire. Having studied with a Second question: is there a set of conventions in the genre of biography that compel a biographer to adopt a tone of humility vis a vis the object of study unlike say a hagiographic account of the life of St. Ignatious Loyola produced by a Jesuit proud of the order to which he and the founder of the order belong? And what would the atheist reader do with such a text if not imitate the Spiritual Exercises. Last question: does not the "responsibility to become what we find to admire" rest upon a more fundmental imperative -- to empathise with beings other than ourselves -- which of course becomes circular since if it is the gift of empathy that we admire in great humanists such as Erasmus and Panofsky it is , is it not, that empathy which propels us to admiration? Very fitting that such an Entscheidungsproblem is sparked by a reference to David Hilbert. -- Francois Lachance, Scholar-at-large http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~lachance Member of the Evelyn Letters Project http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~dchamber/evelyn/evtoc.htm --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 06:57:31 +0000 From: "Osher Doctorow" <osher@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Hero worship, AI, and robotics From: Osher Doctorow osher@ix.netcom.com, Sunday Oct. 29, 2000 7:15AM I agree with WM concerning hero worship of "great scientists" or great people anywhere. Having done that myself, I realize some of the temptations, although some others only come to mind as I type. Eliminating our own responsibility for contributing, as Willard indicates, is frightening but true (I think). Some of it is probably reality based. Some of it may reflect the tendency to categorize, which is a two-edged sword without which we would have no Civilization but with which we may have no peace or even accuracy. Fortunately, we have a few Socratic people wandering about to return us to the path. Oops! There I go again. Osher
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