Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 14, No. 403. Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London <http://www.princeton.edu/~mccarty/humanist/> <http://www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/humanist/> [1] From: "Osher Doctorow" <osher@ix.netcom.com> (37) Subject: Re: 14.0396 primitives, argumentation, markup and evidence [2] From: Randall Pierce <rpierce@jsucc.jsu.edu> (11) Subject: Cognitive connections --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:29:55 +0100 From: "Osher Doctorow" <osher@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: 14.0396 primitives, argumentation, markup and evidence I must agree with Randall Pierce, although my language is slightly different and my focus is slightly different. I have recently argued on H-War that Creative Geniuses play a game unlike most others, in which each move is an equation or inequality or, in humanist language, a relationship between/among variables and/or constants. In warfare, the equations/inequalities are new ones deliberately created by the strategist, or in humanist language a Trap is created by coordinating several variables in ways that they have not been usually coordinated before. Outside of warfare, the equations/inequalities are usually not new ones, but they involve slight changes in axioms, assumptions, and even definitions to change the focus to what really is the unsolved problem of interest - asking the right questions in Randall's terminology. Osher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Humanist Discussion Group <willard.mccarty@kcl.ac.uk>)" <willard@lists.village.virginia.edu> To: "Humanist Discussion Group" <humanist@lists.Princeton.EDU> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:10 PM > > Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 14, No. 396. > Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London > <http://www.princeton.edu/~mccarty/humanist/> > <http://www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/humanist/> > > [1] From: Wendell Piez <wapiez@mulberrytech.com> (72) > Subject: Re: 14.0387 primitives, argumentation, evidence > > [2] From: Randall Pierce <rpierce@jsucc.jsu.edu> (5) > Subject: Re: 14.0387 primitives, argumentation, evidence > > > --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 06:52:58 +0100 > From: Wendell Piez <wapiez@mulberrytech.com> > Subject: Re: 14.0387 primitives, argumentation, evidence > > --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:32:05 +0100 From: Randall Pierce <rpierce@jsucc.jsu.edu> Subject: Cognitive connections Re the comments of Jascha Kessler concerning cognitive connections: I use the word descry to indicate "catching sight of something difficult to discern." Perhaps I might rephrase my comments and use the word obfuscate. I have often been accused of doing exactly this when putting forward a premise or commenting on one of someone else. And yes, I do "decry" obfuscations which make it necessary to "descry" a point. "Sociological Primitives" can teach us much. What to cybernetic technologist may seem "stone-age" is "cutting edge technology to the "primitive" being addressed.All of this society's vaunted technology is so much razzle-dazzle if it stands in the way of understanding, insights, and "cognitive connectons." And thank you, Mr. Kessler for your kind comments on my "punny" observations. Randall
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