7.0609 Q and Rs: Quote; Wellcome Institute (4/156)

Elaine Brennan (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Tue, 12 Apr 1994 23:50:38 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 7, No. 0609. Tuesday, 12 Apr 1994.


(1) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 11:55:27 EDT (21 lines)
From: billday@aol.com
Subject: Qs: Lord Beaverbrook

(2) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:55:42 +0000 (12 lines)
From: marcus.banks@anthropology.oxford.ac.uk
Subject: Re: 7.0608 Qs: Wellcome Inst.;

(3) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:10:32 +0300 (EET-DST) (48 lines)
From: Judy Koren <LBJUDY@vmsa.technion.ac.il>
Subject: RE: 7.0608 Wellcome Institute

(4) Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:30:49 +0000 (75 lines)
From: "S.A.Rae (Simon Rae)" <S.A.Rae@open.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: 7.0608 Qs: ... Wellcome Inst. ...

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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 11:55:27 EDT
From: billday@aol.com
Subject: Qs: Lord Beaverbrook

I may be pushing the Humanist envelope a bit, but I recently tried to track
down a quotation which I believe is attributed to the British newspaper
magnate William Maxwell Aitken, 1st Baron Beaverbrook. Neither my local
library with its books, biographies, and database, nor the Library of
Congress, nor even one of Beaverbrook's former bureau chiefs could place it.
In any case, though I am not quite positive about either the attribution or
the wording of the quotation, it is roughly as follows:

"Journalism is what somebody doesn't want you to print, everything else is
publicity."

I would be very grateful to anyone who could verify the attribution, provide
the exact form of the quote, and ideally, provide a citation.

Thanks,

Bill Day
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:55:42 +0000
From: marcus.banks@anthropology.oxford.ac.uk
Subject: Re: 7.0608 Qs: Markup; Quotes; Wellcome Inst.; Napoleon (5/88)

W. McCarty asks for details about the Wellcome Institute's on-line access.
The address he gives (WIHM.UCL.AC.UK) is a telnet login address and has
just worked ok for me (in the UK). But I will contact a friend there and
tell him of W. McCarthy's problem.

Marcus Banks, Oxford


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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:10:32 +0300 (EET-DST)
From: Judy Koren <LBJUDY@vmsa.technion.ac.il>
Subject: RE: 7.0608 Qs: Markup; Quotes; Wellcome Inst.; Napoleon (5/88)

re:

>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:29:12 -0500 (EDT)
>From: mccarty@epas.utoronto.ca (W. McCarty)
>Subject: Wellcome Institute catalogue
>
>According to an advert in the TLS for 1 April, the Wellcome Institute
>Library Database and Catalogue (for the Wellcome Institute for the
>History of Medicine) is accessible via Internet at WIHM.UCL.AC.UK.
>Unfortunately the announcement does not say by what mechanism (telnet?
>gopher? other?). I have tried telnet and gopher without success.
>Perhaps someone from the Institute, reading this, will publish the
>details on Humanist. The problem may simply be that my machine does
>not yet know the IP address corresponding to WIHM.UCL.AC.UK.

I telnetted to this catalog with no problems. Can't tell you the
ip number because Telnet didn't echo it to the screen (sometimes
it does, sometimes not). However, since IP number hunting is
distributed (ie your nameserver sees "uk" and sends the address
to England, which sends it on to the UCL nameserver), the reason
is unlikely to be that your particular nameserver didn't know the
address. I'm sure my campus nameserver doesn't know any more
than yours! If you look at the *reason* Telnet gives for not
connecting, you can sometimes figure out what's happening:
"unknown host" == nameserver problems, but in 99% of cases the
reason is a typo you didn't notice
"timed out" == got the address but couldn't reach the machine
-- either network problems, or the machine is
having maintenance work done and offline; may
alternatively give the message "no response"
"connection refused" == reached the machine but it wouldn't let
the program (Telnet in this case) connect. If
you're using gopher, www etc, this is the answer
you get if they've moved the server to a different
machine...
If you got no error message, Telnet just got stuck, the reason may
be problems running it on your machine.

NB when I reached the Wellcome Inst. they told me to login, if coming
from the net, with an uppercase W. As said I got in with no trouble.

Try again, and good luck!

Judy Koren, Haifa.
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Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:30:49 +0000
From: "S.A.Rae (Simon Rae)" <S.A.Rae@open.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: 7.0608 Qs: ... Wellcome Inst. ...

Willard asks about an address/connect information for the Wellcome Institute
catalogue.
> According to an advert in the TLS for 1 April, the Wellcome Institute
> Library Database and Catalogue (for the Wellcome Institute for the
> History of Medicine) is accessible via Internet at WIHM.UCL.AC.UK.
> Unfortunately the announcement does not say by what mechanism (telnet?
> gopher? other?). I have tried telnet and gopher without success.
> Perhaps someone from the Institute, reading this, will publish the
> details on Humanist. The problem may simply be that my machine does
> not yet know the IP address corresponding to WIHM.UCL.AC.UK.

I had a bit of trouble as well ... I suspect that it is a new service and that
the addresses and names have not yet percolated through all the system
directories ... however I was able to telnet to them:

$ TELNET 128.40.22.221
Trying...128.40.22.221
Connected to .
Escape character is '^]'.

Logon please (network users type W in UPPER CASE): W

(new screen)

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*** McDonnell Douglas Information Systems International. ***
*** 7.0 Rev P Sysgen created 09:47AM 22OCT90 ***
*** Wellcome Institute Library Database and Catalogue ***
*** ***
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(zips past!)
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WELLCOME INSTITUTE LIBRARY DATABASE AND CATALOGUE
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Terminal selection menu:
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1. PC/Mac using VT100
2. PC using WORKS (VT52)
3. tvi905 with VP A2 emulation
4. McDonnell Douglas
5. Sun with Shelltool window

Select: 1

(new screen)

WELLCOME INSTITUTE LIBRARY DATABASE AND CATALOGUE SYSTEM
(WILDCat)
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0. About WILDCat

1. About the INSTITUTE

2. INSTITUTE LIBRARY CATALOGUES

3. BIBLIOGRAPHIC CURRENT AWARENESS SERVICES

4. Logoff and disconnection

etc.

Hope the Internet number helps.

Cheers
Simon Rae
The Open University