7.0088 Rs: ESpanish; EMail Addresses; Cambridge; Croesus (8/173)
Elaine Brennan (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Fri, 9 Jul 1993 13:11:09 EDT
Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 7, No. 0088. Friday, 9 Jul 1993.
(1) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 12:10:50 BST (33 lines)
From: Richard Giordano <rich@cs.man.ac.uk>
Subject: Finding email addresses
(2) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 93 08:38:31 CDT (12 lines)
From: "Joan B. Fiscella" <U46028@UICVM>
Subject: reply to J. Smurthwaite re: e-interdisciplinary studies
(3) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 09:21:32 CST (17 lines)
From: "Jim Marchand" <marchand@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: croesus' son
(4) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 93 13:29:42 BST (9 lines)
From: DEL2@phx.cam.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [7.0082 Qs: Cambridge
(5) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 23:24:16 PDT (18 lines)
From: cbf@athena.berkeley.edu (Charles Faulhaber)
Subject: Re: 7.0083 Text Qs: Spanish
(6) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 10:12:49 +0000 (34 lines)
From: banks@vax.ox.ac.uk
Subject: Re: 7.0082 Qs: Cambridge
(7) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 10:08:02 BST (14 lines)
From: frsdjt <D.J.Thompson@french.hull.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 7.0082 Qs: Cambridge
(8) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 00:19 EDT (36 lines)
From: <BCJ@PSUVM>
Subject: E-MAIL ACCESS
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 12:10:50 BST
From: Richard Giordano <rich@cs.man.ac.uk>
Subject: Finding email addresses
Someone wanted to know how to get email addresses without having to ask for
them explicitly over the HUMANIST. I use NETFIND, and, more often than not,
it does the job if you have some idea of where the person works. I don't
know how you'd use it from a non-UNIX environment.
Given the name of a person on the Internet and a rough description of where
the person works, the program "Netfind" attempts to locate information about
the person. It usage is quite simple; first you have to connect yourself to
the following site:
bruno.cs.colorado.edu (128.138.243.151)
(By typing: telnet bruno.cs.colorado.edu from Unix you'll be connected)
When prompted, enter a name followed by a set of keywords, such as
schwartz boulder colorado university
The keywords describe for example where the person works, followed by the
name of institution and/or the city/state/country. The system returns back
some useful information such as the Mail and Email addresses of that person.
Often it happens to all of us to have names of people without their contact
addresses.
The program is menu driven and is quite easy to us after a few tries.
/rich
Computer Science
University of Manchester
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 93 08:38:31 CDT
From: "Joan B. Fiscella" <U46028@UICVM>
Subject: reply to J. Smurthwaite re: e-interdisciplinary studies
There is an electronic discussion group for interdisciplinary studies
called INTERDIS. To join send a note to LISTSERV@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU;
the body of the message should read SUB INTERDIS <your name>.
For more details, send an email message to Wolfe_Chris@msmail.MUOHIO.EDU.
Joan Fiscella
Bibliographer for Professional Studies
University of Illinois at Chicago Library
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 09:21:32 CST
From: "Jim Marchand" <marchand@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: croesus' son
The phrase "like Croesus' son" is indeed well-known, both in such phrases as
"like the son of Croesus, my tongue is unlocked," as well as in "like
Croesus' son, I stand silent." The story of Croesus' son, Atys, was known
in 17th century England as well as elsewhere, through translations of
Herodotus, through Scaliger, through many, many sources. See John Edwin
Sandys, A History of Classical Scholarship, vol. 2 (Cambridge: CUP, 1908),
s. v. Herodotus. There is some literature on the deafmute in literature,
and the motif is mentioned in Stith Thompson at F1041.22 and V23.2. I have
never seen it used as an exordial topos as a reason for writing, though "I
cannot/dare not remain silent" is, of course, very common. Of course, I am
a medievalist, and I do not get past 1500. Such topoi for the Middle Ages
are well-treated by Curtius, Janson, and Simon.
Jim Marchand.
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 93 13:29:42 BST
From: DEL2@phx.cam.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [7.0082 Qs: E-Groups; Addresses; Mail Systems; Cambridge (6/125)]
W. McCarty asked what a colleague now on sabbatical in Cambridge can do,
having just discovered that he cannot borrow books from the UL.
One answer: be grateful that he is not in Oxford, where the Vice
Chancellor himself can neither borrow nor even browse the open shelves. :-)
Flippantly, Douglas de Lacey, Cambridge.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 23:24:16 PDT
From: cbf@athena.berkeley.edu (Charles Faulhaber)
Subject: Re: 7.0083 Text Qs: Darwin; Spanish; K Philips; Usk; OTA (6/97)
Re Spanish e-text
The place to start for Spanish texts are the Oxford and Georgetown
text archives, both of which can be found using archie, found on
many university computer systems (talk to your local Computer Center
staff).
There is currently available a collection of 45 Spanish-language
texts printed between 1480 and ca. 1530 on the Archivo Digital de
Manuscritos y Textos Espannoles (ADMYTE), a CD-ROM disk. Check
with Michael Solomon (Dept. of Spanish, Emory) for more details.
Charles Faulhaber
UC Berkeley
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 10:12:49 +0000
From: banks@vax.ox.ac.uk
Subject: Re: 7.0082 Qs: E-Groups; Addresses; Mail Systems; Cambridge (6/125)
In reply to:
>
>(4) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 09:14:27 EDT (20 lines)
> From: Stephen Clausing <SCLAUS@YALEVM>
> Subject: finding e-mail addresses
>I would like to ask a more
>general question: is there any simple way of getting such addresses over the
>network. I know that some universities have a postmaster who can give you
>local addresses, but you have to know how to reach the postmaster first. Also
>I believe there is a listing that you can voluntarily join and query for
>addresses, but few people know about this or use the service. Why can't we
>just have a central listing of everybody's e-mail address which everyone is
>put on automatically by their host institution unless they specifically
>request otherwise?
In a limited form such things do exist. Here in the the UK there is an
experimental service on the NISS Gateway, called 'Paradise', while a site
somewhere in the US records the email addresses of all USENET contributors,
a listing one can search using gopher (gopher searches can also access
certain US university lists). I would imagine the problems in trying to
compile a central listing of *everyone* with an email address would be
enormous - imagine a world phone book! One of the problems must come with
the enormous numbers of student users of email (and other e-systems
requiring an address such as USENET): the sheer volume of these, plus their
fairly short lifespan (the addresses that is, not the students) would foul
up any attempt to gather a central list together.
Marcus Banks, Oxford
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 10:08:02 BST
From: frsdjt <D.J.Thompson@french.hull.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 7.0082 Qs: E-Groups; Addresses; Mail Systems; Cambridge (6/125)
Re: Cambridge library facilities - attention Willard McCarty
The only way my own husband (Professor at the University of Hull) can
borrow books from the UL is to send me in with a list! As I am a graduate
of Cambridge I have borrowing rights. All his degrees are from elsewhere,
so he does not. It's a ridiculous situation - if anybody knows a way round
it (apart from obtaining a visiting fellowship) we'd be glad to know.
June Thompson
CTI Centre for Modern Languages, University of Hull
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 00:19 EDT
From: <BCJ@PSUVM>
Subject: E-MAIL ACCESS
I recently asked HUMANIST readers to comment on various ways for people
without university computer centre accounts to contact Internet.
Herewith are the results.
There was very little personal response about experience on Compuserve
or other commercial services. One correspondent related that Worldlink
worked well enough, but that ftp was difficult. North American users
of such services can expect to pay a minimum of $30/month, and the rates
may increase with volume, and there may be problems with memory if too
many (or too lengthy) messages pile up.
There are several "Freenet" locations, which could provide an avenue of
entry into the Internet (mostly but not exclusively in North America).
A list of these locations, and of regional planning committees, can
be had from Linda Delzeit, National Public Telecomputing Network Director
of Education, whose email address is aa002@nptn.org. However, many
Freenet sites are already heavily used, and access may be limited or
slow, and the sites themselves are relatively few and far between.
Several correspondents recommended that people seeking access to the
nets should consult Ed Krol's book, _The Whole Internet User's Guide
and Catalogue_ (Sebastapol, CA: O'Reilly, 1992).
The most comprehensive and useful answer came from Bob Kraft, who
referred me to his OFFLINE 39, which covered the subject admirably.
Thanks also to Jim Marchand, Randy Smith, Cathy Ball, Peter Scott,
Jack Ferstel, Mary Ellen Foley, and Nancy M. Davies.
Kevin Berland (for C18-L and Latin-L)
BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET or BCJ@psuvm.psu.edu
English & Comparative Literature, Penn State