6.0514 Rs: Student Computers and Internet Dialup (4/89)

Elaine Brennan (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Tue, 16 Feb 1993 12:36:39 EST

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 6, No. 0514. Tuesday, 16 Feb 1993.


(1) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 15:51:09 CST (11 lines)
From: Norman Hinton <hinton@eagle.sangamon.edu>
Subject: Re: 6.0508 Rs: Internet Dial-up

(2) Date: 15 Feb 1993 15:54:24 -0500 (CDT) (13 lines)
From: Bob Hariman <RH0661R@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
Subject: student computers

(3) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 08:21:35 EST (28 lines)
From: Andrew Lakritz <AL6HENGF@MIAMIU>
Subject: Re: 6.0508 Rs: Student Computers (3/79)

(4) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 08:48:42 -0600 (37 lines)
From: ksalzber@seq.hamline.edu (Kenneth Salzberg)
Subject: Re: 6.0508 Rs: Student Computers (3/79)

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 15:51:09 CST
From: Norman Hinton <hinton@eagle.sangamon.edu>
Subject: Re: 6.0508 Rs: Internet Dial-up

I dial up Internet from home every day and so do hundreds if not thousands
of people all over the world. Your Guru is a quack.

BTW, Bitnet and Internet also can interface via dialup. You just need
better information.

Norman Hinton hinton@eagle.sangamon.edu
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Date: 15 Feb 1993 15:54:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bob Hariman <RH0661R@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
Subject: student computers

Several years ago Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa set out to become
a Macintosh computer intensive university. The first steps included
giving all faculty and staff mac pluses, with strong support services, etc.,
and encouraging students and faculty/staff to purchase machines that were
available at substantial discounts. Student labs also were set up, and
increased yearly. Lots of additional hardware also was provided to faculty
and staff. Then all dorm rooms for first year students were equiped with
a machine and printer and vax hookup. Now all dorm rooms are being equiped.
There have been few complaints. rdh
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 08:21:35 EST
From: Andrew Lakritz <AL6HENGF@MIAMIU>
Subject: Re: 6.0508 Rs: Student Computers (3/79)

Regarding Student Computers and e-mail access:

At my university integration of computers and course-work proceeds on an
ad hoc basis. In the English department, for instance, several sections of
first year writing are given in one of the two computer labs (one IBM, the
other Mac). One of my colleagues is now teaching a graduate course making use
of e-mail, each student having an account and access to a computer lab near
the academic computing center.

Connection to the main-frame (and thus to the Nets, to the VAX, and to our
library on-line catalogue, as well as to HYTELNET) is simple and inexpensive.
To connect an office computer to the main-frame via a hard-wire connection
costs the department $100; many of my colleagues have modems however (a little
slower) the department purchases at about $75 a piece. I also can connect
to the main-frame from my home, at no charge.

In other departments computer use may proceed on a more sophisticated level (ma
th, decision sciences), but nearly every student has access either to their own
or a university computer. We also have a student purchase plan at the book-
store.

Andrew Lakritz
Miami U of Ohio
AL6HENGF @ MIAMIU
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 08:48:42 -0600
From: ksalzber@seq.hamline.edu (Kenneth Salzberg)
Subject: Re: 6.0508 Rs: Student Computers (3/79)

In partial answer to William P. Williams' query: I have no idea how much
our school's internet connection costs the school - it is, however,
a charge for the _school's_ connection, without regard to which department
does, or doesn't have memebers who use it.
It is quite possible to have a "dial-up" connection to the
internet, if by "dial-up" you mean a connection from one's home,
or other location outside the "interconnected" university environment.
Even small schools, like ours, can do it. What your computer center
needs to do is to install a modem or 4 on some outside phone lines,
which modems are connected to the computers that are connected to the
internet. I am typing this at my school computer that is conntected
to our sequent computer by a "data switch" that operates at 9600 baud
and, by using a "higher" band than the analog phone line in my office,
ca use the same phone line and still allow phone calls in and out while
I am connected to the central computer. (the sequent is, in turn, connected
to the internet through the U. of Minnesota's computer center.) From
home, I call our modem phone number, am limited to 2400 baud (since that
is the speed of the modems our school bought) and can connect to the same
sequent computer. That connection, since it uses a modem at home ties up
our home phone line, and is slow, so I try to do most of my work from here.
We may, someday soon, get faster modems, I may, someday in the
distant future, get a second phone line at home, and a faster modem,
and be able to connect at the same rate as with the data switch. If you
can convince your computer people to install faster modems at the
university end of this connection, it would give you the option of the
faster connection.
Good luck.

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Kenneth Salzberg ksalzber@hamline.edu
Hamline University (612)641-2354
School of Law
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