6.0454 Rs: Reaching JANET; Quote ID (2/73)

Elaine Brennan (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:40:51 EST

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 6, No. 0454. Tuesday, 26 Jan 1993.


(1) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:05:14 GMT (67 lines)
From: Christopher Currie <ccurrie@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 6.0441 Rs: Reaching JANET from the US

(2) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:12 CST (6 lines)
From: Michael Ossar <MLO@KSUVM>
Subject: Quote needed quickly

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:05:14 GMT
From: Christopher Currie <ccurrie@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 6.0441 Rs: ISO Y-Umlaut; JANET from the US (5/97)[

> (2) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 12:43:49 GMT (42 lines)
> From: Richard Giordano <rich@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk>
> Subject: JANET nodes from US
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 12:43:49 GMT
> From: Richard Giordano <rich@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk>
> Subject: JANET nodes from US
>
> > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 8:50:15 EST
> > From: Ed Haupt <haupt@pilot.njin.net>
> > Subject: janet (not my favorite activity)
> >
> > I was recently poking around a librarians newsgroup and came upon
> > instructions for getting on a Glasgow library bulletin board which was
> > interesting.
> >
> > the directions were
> >
> > telnet sun.nsf.ac.uk
> > login: janet
> > hostname: uk.ac.glasgow.bubl
> > terminal type: vt100
> >
> > It seems to me that you might have to go explicitly through the nsf
> > gateway to get to janet, so an address might require
> >
> > loginname!uk.ac.xx@sun.nsf.ac.uk
> >
> > Faulhaber's problem really needs an internet guru.
> >
> > Ed Haupt
> >
>
> I think the directions you read are a bit out of date. For about a year now
> JANET has been running Internet Protocols, which means that you can mail,
> telnet, rlogin and ftp UK sites using a standard IP address without explicitly
> going through the nsf-net gateway. In the past, you explicitly went through
> a gateway to convert the Internet protocols to JANET (X.25 and X.400)
> protocols. JANET now runs both.
>
> It could be that Glasgow has not yet installed Internet software, but I
> doubt that.

Some Glasgow sites are on the Internet, but Bubl (which should eventually be
bubl.gla.ac.uk, one presumes) doesn't appear to have been registered yet.

Nor has the UK NISS gateway, which provides a way of getting to Bubl
and other services.

So there is probably no alternative to trying the nsfnet gateway, which
tends to be overused, and to following the original instructions.

This is a typical example of the way heavy science/computing gets preference
over humanities/information services.


If you want IP access to BUBL (which is a very useful service) you need to
lobby for it. But it ought to be here soon anyway.

Christopher Currie
ccurrie@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:12 CST
From: Michael Ossar <MLO@KSUVM>
Subject: Quote needed quickly

The quote Germaine Warkentin asks about is from Tristes Tropiques (New York,
1979), p.102.