6.0370 Qs: Lighthouses; E-History; TLL; Quotes; Presence (5/96)

Elaine Brennan (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:55:50 EST

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 6, No. 0370. Friday, 20 Nov 1992.


(1) Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:16:58 -0500 (EST) (15 lines)
From: CNOWENS@DEPAUW.BITNET
Subject: Lighthouses in the Hebrides

(2) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:00 CST (10 lines)
From: Michael Ossar <MLO@KSUVM>
Subject: French history

(3) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 08:34:50 EST (7 lines)
From: Michel Pierssens <R36254@UQAM>
Subject: Thesaurus Linguae Latinae

(4) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:00:37 +0300 (41 lines)
From: Victor_Caston@brown.edu
Subject: Re: Presence in Absence

(5) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:06:28 -0800 (PST) (23 lines)
From: Jan Eveleth <eveleth@nwnet.net>
Subject: Apples & Ideas quote

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Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:16:58 -0500 (EST)
From: CNOWENS@DEPAUW.BITNET
Subject: Lighthouses in the Hebrides

I'm working on a paper discussing the imagery in Virginia Wool's novel _To The
Lighthouse_. In order to complete my research, I need to have an idea what
lighthouses in the Hebrides (where the story takes place) looked like around
turn of this century and a little after, say, until WWI. Is there any member
who knows or, better yeat, remembers those lighthouses? If so, would you
please supply a discription of shape, size, color, and pattern.

<CNOWENS@DEPAUW.BITNET> C.N. Owens
UB Box 5460
408 S. Locust Street
Greencastle, IN 46315
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:00 CST
From: Michael Ossar <MLO@KSUVM>
Subject: French history

Would someone be good enough to send intructions on subscribing to the French
history list to my colleague, Albert Hamscher: AHAM AT KSUVM. I know it's
called something like "francehs," but I forgot the exact name. Many thanks in
advance.
Michael Ossar
Kansas State University
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 08:34:50 EST
From: Michel Pierssens <R36254@UQAM>
Subject: Thesaurus Linguae Latinae

Would anyone know whether there is an electronic access to the TLL? Thanks!
M. Pierssens
piersens@ere.umontreal.ca
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:00:37 +0300
From: Victor_Caston@brown.edu
Subject: Re: Presence in Absence

HUMANIST seems just the place to ask this sort of question:

I am currently interested in occurrences of the *phrase* 'PRESENCE IN
ABSENCE' (or close variations, e.g., 'present though absent,' etc.) to
describe the "presence" of various objects to thought or desire, even
though the objects in question are absent from the thinker's immediate
environment (and, in some cases, may not even exist at all). This is one of
a number of ways in which the notion of intentionality (in Brentano's
sense, derived from the medieval 'intentio' and 'esse intentionale') is
expressed before the term.

My own special area of interest is ancient Greek philosophy, where we find
occurrences of the equivalent Greek phrase as early as Hesiod (not to
mention Thales, Parmenides, Heraclitus, Democritus, Plato, Aristotle, and
Epicurus). But I am now curious about the phrase more generally, not only
as it occurs in the classical languages, but also as it occurs in *other
national literatures* and *other periods*. On finding a variation of this
antithesis in one of Shakespeare's sonnets ("So, either by thy picture or
my love,/Thyself away are present still with me;/For thou not further than
my thoughts canst move,/And I am still with them and they with me", XLVII),
I began to wonder just how widespread this antithesis is. Ordinary
concordances have thus far proved of limited value.

I would be extremely grateful for any references concerning this phrase,
whether to primary sources or to secondary literature, all the more so if
they originate far from the fields I normally till.



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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:06:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Jan Eveleth <eveleth@nwnet.net>
Subject: Apples & Ideas quote


"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we each exchange
these apples, then you and I will still each have one apple.
But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these
ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."

Can any of the Humanist subscribers provide me with the reference
for this quote? We think it was from George Bernard Shaw but
that's the only hint I can offer. (Please send your response
directly to me--eveleth@nwnet.net.) Thanks!

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