6.0303 Rs on E-Texts: Afro-American Poetry; LASLA (2) (3/378)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Tue, 20 Oct 1992 17:57:20 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 6, No. 0303. Tuesday, 20 Oct 1992.


(1) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 11:06 EST (55 lines)
From: <PWILLETT@IUBACS>
Subject: Summary of responses RE: Chadwyck-Healey MRDFs

(2) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 12:07 EDT (308 lines)
From: Paul Mangiafico <PMANGIAFICO@GUVAX.BITNET>
Subject: Update of LASLA E-texts

(3) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 92 12:51+0000 (15 lines)
From: Heberlein@KU-EICHSTAETT.DBP.DE
Subject: Re: Latin Tagged Text

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 11:06 EST
From: <PWILLETT@IUBACS>
Subject: Summary of responses RE: Chadwyck-Healey MRDFs

A while back, I asked for opinions and experiences from
Humanist and PACS-L readers regarding the full-text databases from
Chadwyck-Healey (Patrologia Latina, English Full-Text Poetry DB,
and, especially, the African-American Poetry DB). There seems to
be some interest, as I received plenty of messages requesting that
I post a summary. Unfortunately, interest is far greater than
actual experience. While I didn't hear from anyone who has actually
used or seen a C-H full-text database on CD-ROM, I got one response
from someone whose library has one on order, and another who was
interested in ordering one soon. I also got one response from
someone involved in a beta test of the Patrologia Latina running on
a UN*X system using PAT/Lector as the search engine.
The only opinion I received was from a librarian who was
somewhat critical of C-H, since they seem to be late in all three
of the projects mentioned above. This librarian (I don't wish to
hint at identity) also mentioned that the African-American Poetry
DB does not use SGML, unlike the other two, which made this
person think the project a dead-end. It does suggest that the
African-American Poetry DB will work quite differently than the
other two. I had assumed (ah, assumptions) that C-H was committed
to SGML/TEI principles for all of their full-text products, and
am a little disappointed to find out it isn't so. I'm not sure
that SGML/TEI will be the most important criterion in our
decision to purchase, but I think it should be a factor.
I am a little more troubled by the lateness/vagueness. I
know that this is common in all parts of the computer industry, but
I can't get anyone at C-H to answer some questions, or even return
my calls. When I spoke last to a sales rep, he couldn't offer
a trial period to test the product, and couldn't understand my
reluctance to pay even a pre-publication sale price for an untested
product. He did offer to arrange a demonstration of the English
Full-Text DB, which at the time I believed would be similar. He
told me that the African-American Poetry DB would be available
in January 1993, and I heard from someone who said that the
English Full-Text DB on CD-ROM would be available in November
1992.
One librarian reminded me of the installation nightmares of
the various National Bibliographies offered by C-H. I guess I
had repressed the memory. However, the librarian who is involved
the the beta test of the Patrologia Latina is satisfied with
C-H's responsiveness.
My thanks to everyone who responded. I guess I'm a little
less sure I would support the purchase of the African-American Poetry
DB than I was going in, but for now I'll wait for more information.

Perry Willett
Main Library
Indiana University
Phone: 812-855-1891
Bitnet: PWILLETT@INDIANA
Internet:PWILLETT@INDIANA.EDU
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 12:07 EDT
From: Paul Mangiafico <PMANGIAFICO@GUVAX.BITNET>
Subject: Update of LASLA E-texts

Recently there were some questions about the availability of etexts of
classical Greek and Latin authors, particularly those held by LASLA.
I have since received new information from Dr. Denooz at LASLA that
might answer some of those questions, and have included it below. Please
contact me for more info on this or other etext projects, or for a copy of the
CPET (Catalogue of Projects in Electronic Text) User Guide explaining how to
gain remote access to the CPET catalog. The CPET is continuously updated,
so chances are you may find something new.

Paul Mangiafico, Project Assistant
Catalogue of Projects in Electronic Text (CPET)
Center for Text and Technology
Georgetown University

pmangiafico@guvax.georgetown.edu

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Liege (Univ)/ LASLA = Laboratoire d'Analyse Statistique des
Langue Anciennes
0. LASLA
1. Laboratoire d'Analyse Statistique des Langue Anciennes,
University of Liege.
Dr. J. Denooz, director. Collaborators: Dr. S.
Govaerts, Dr. G. Purnelle, Cl. Purnelle-Simar.
2. Joseph Denooz, director
University of Liege
Place du 20-aou^t 32
B-4000 Lie\ge, Belgium
tel: 32-41-66-55-11
email: u0013a1@bliulg11
3. Latin and Greek, Literature
4. classical period, Rome and Greece
5. Latin, Greek
6. Textbase for lexicology, morphology, and stylistic
analysis. Some texts lemmatized and with morphologic
analysis. Approx. 1,800,000 words.
8. Magnetic tape (mainframe) or floppy disks (pc)
9. Price on request.
10. Works: Numerals following each text indicate the number
of words currently held in that particular textbank. Some
texts are accompanied by a lemmatization and morphological
analysis system, shown as "lemme-analyse" in the list.
LATIN TEXTS:
ACCIUS 4819
Valerius AEDITUUS 71
Licius AFRANIUS 2383
Livius ANDRONICUS 533
T. ANNIUS Luscus 9
M. ANTONIUS 27
APPIUS Claudius Caecus 23
APRISSIUS 8
AQUILIUS 71
Lucius ARRUNTIUS 36
Sempronius ASELLIO 246
ATEIUS Praetextatus 6
ATILIUS 19
T. Quinctius ATTA 130
AUGUSTUS, fragments historiques et poe/tiques 107
AUSONIUS, Epigrammata (lemme-analyse) 3797
M. Furius BIBACULUS 176
M. Iunius BRUTUS prior 24
L. CAECILIUS Metellus 47
CAECILIUS Statius 1707
M. CAELIUS Rufus 122
Q. Servilius CAEPIO 18
C. Iulius CAESAR, Bellum ciuile (lem.-analyse) en cours
Bellum Africanum 13506
Bellum Alexandrinum 10685
Bellum Hispaniense 6189
Bellum Gallicum (lemme-analyse) 45388
Fragments grammaticaux 80
Fragments oratoires 179
Fragments poe/tiques 42
M. CALIDIUS 21
L. CALPURNIUS Piso 206
C. Licinius Macer CALVUS 209
P. CANNUTIUS 13
C. Papirius CARBO 15
C. Papirius CARBO Arvina 27
Carmen Nelei 21
Carmen Saliare 36
M. Porcius CATO, De agricultura (lemme-analyse) 15997
Fragments oratoires (lemme-analyse) 2752
Originum fragmenta (lemme-analyse) 860
Fragments divers (lemme-analyse) 498
M. Porcius CATO (censoris nepos) 30
CATULLUS (lemme-analyse) 13152
CICERO, In Catilinam (lemme-analyse) 12730
Pro Caecina (lemme-analyse) 10217
Pro lege Manilia (lemme-analyse) 6626
Pro Rabirio perduellionis reo (lemme-analyse) 3588
Pro Archia 3132
De officiis en cours
De natura deorum (lemme-analyse) 8996
Tusculanae disputationes (lemme-analyse) 6894
Laelius siue De amicitia (lemme-analyse) 9435
De senectute siue Cato maior 8316
Fragments oratoires 4246
Quintus CICERO, Fragments poe/tiques 130
Commentariolum petitionis 4398
L. CINCIUS 103
C. Helvius CINNA 112
Servius CLODIUS 30
L. COELIUS Antipater 284
P. COMINIUS 22
CORNELIA (Gracchorum mater) 249
Q. CORNIFICIUS 14
Corpus Hermeticum-Asclepius (lemme) 8748
C. Aurelius COTTA 12
L. Licinius CRASSUS 188
C. Scribonius CURIO avus 9
C. Scribonius CURIO pater 10
Quintus CURTIUS Rufus (lemme-analyse) 71633
P. Cornelius DOLABELLA 2
DURONIUS 42
EGNATIUS 18
ENNIUS 7707
Cornelius EPICADUS 2
Q. FABIUS Maximus Servilianus 3
Ser. FABIUS Pictor 410
C. FABRICIUS Luscinus 96
C. FANNIUS 104
FAVORINUS 102
A. FURIUS Antias 36
C. Cornelius GALLUS 5
GANNIUS 19
Cn. GELLIUS 38
C. Sempronius GRACCHUS 844
L. Cassius HEMINA 207
HORATIUS, Epistulae (lemme-analyse) 10129
Carmina (lemme-analyse) 13582
Epodon liber (lemme-analyse) 3074
Satirae (lemme-analyse) 14512
Q. HORTENSIUS Hortalus 6
HOSTIUS 39
Licinius IMBREX 14
IUVENALIS (lemme-analyse) 25140
IUVENTIUS 46
LABERIUS 756
C. LAELIUS Sapiens 81
LAEVIUS 237
Luscius LANUVINUS 10
M. Tullius LAUREA 63
M. Aemilius LEPIDUS Porcina 9
LUCILIUS 7955
LUCRETIUS (lemme-analyse) 49554
Q. LUTATIUS Catulus 62
Aemilius MACER - d. 16 A.C. 87
C. Licinius MACER 61
MAECENAS 102
MANILIUS 22
Helvius MANCIA 118
Cn. MARCIUS 12
MARULLUS 7
Cn. MATIUS 116
C. MEMMIUS 44
M. Valerius MESSALA Corvinus 52
M. Valerius MESSALA Rufus 30
Q. Caecilius METELLUS Macedonius 84
Q. Caecilius METELLUS Numidicus 180
MUMMIUS 28
L. MUNATIUS Flaccus 27
Naevii Cypria Ilias 10
NAEVIUS 1340
P. NIGIDIUS Figulus 734
NINNIUS Crassus 12
NOVIUS 663
L. NOVIUS 33
Aurelius OPILLUS 36
C. OPPIUS 2
L. ORBILIUS Pupillus 6
OVIDIUS, Ars amatoria (lemme-analyse) 15339
De medicamine faciei (lemme-analyse) 626
Remedia amoris (lemme-analyse) 5337
Amores (lemme-analyse) 16022
Heroi%des (lemme-analyse) 26694
Metamorphoseon libri 15 (lemme-analyse) 10186
PACUVIUS 2560
PAPINIUS 26
L. Aemilius PAULLUS 54
A. PERSIUS Flaccus (lemme-analyse) 4640
PLAUTUS, Amphitruo (lemme-analyse) 9521
Asinaria (lemme-analyse) 7798
Aulularia (lemme-analyse) 6686
Bacchides (lemme-analyse) 9691
Captiui (lemme-analyse) 8485
Casina (lemme-analyse) 7328
Cistellaria 5095
Miles gloriosus 12133
Mostellaria 9023
Persa 7398
Poenulus 10995
Pseudolus 10742
Rudens 11304
Stichus 6103
(Trinummus) 9601
Truculentus 8006
Vidularia 630
Fragments 1144
T. PETRONIVS Arbiter, Satiricon (lemme-analyse) 30952
C. Asinius POLLIO 328
Cn. POMPEIUS Magnus triumvir en cours
Cn. POMPEIUS Cn. Magni filius 78
Q. POMPEIUS Rufus 8
POMPILIUS 18
L. POMPONIUS Bononiensis 1229
PORCIUS Licinus 147
A. POSTUMIUS Albinus 11
PROPERTIUS (lemme-analyse) 7252
PUBLILIUS Syrus 105
Q. Claudius QUADRIGARIUS 1309
Rhetorica ad Herennium 30131
P. RUTILIUS Rufus 38
SALLUSTIUS, De coniuratione Catilinae (lemme-an.) 10607
De bello Iugurthino (lemme-analyse) 21301
SANTRA 26
Q. Mucius SCAEVOLA 5
M. Aemilius SCAURUS 59
P. Cornelius SCIPIO Aemilianus Africanus 390
SENECA, Ad Helviam (lemme-analyse) 6715
Ad Marciam (lemme-analyse) 8262
Ad Polybium (lemme-analyse) 5640
De beneficiis (lemme-analyse) 45276
De brevitate vitae (lemme-analyse) 6109
De clementia (lemme-analyse) 8216
De constantia sapientis (lemme-analyse) 5290
De ira (lemme-analyse) 22410
De otio (lemme-analyse) 1949
De providentia (lemme-analyse) 4078
De tranquillitate animi (lemme-analyse) 7568
De vita beata (lemme-analyse) 7270
Epistulae (lemme-analyse) 118664
Tragoediae (lemme-analyse) 60314
SEVIUS Nicanor 12
SEXTILIUS Ena 7
L. Cornelius SISENNA 1245
STABERIUS Eros 9
L. Aelius STILO 50
C. Iulius Caesar STRABO 34
SUEIUS 103
SUETONIUS en cours
L. Cornelius SULLA 58
TACITUS, Agricola (lemme-analyse) 6776
Annales (lemme-analyse) 90129
De oratoribus (lemme-analyse) 9336
Germania (lemme-analyse) 5738
TERENTIUS, Andria 8311
Adelphoe 8271
Heauton Timorumenos 8961
Eunuchus 9170
Hecyra 7507
Phormio 8677
TIBULLUS (lemme-analyse) 12580
TICIDAS 10
TIMARCHIDES 87
M. Tullius TIRO 596
TITINIUS 986
C. TITIUS 121
Q. TRABEA 45
Q. Aelius TUBERO 75
Sex. TURPILIUS en cours
Q. VALERIUS Soranus 27
VALERIUS 8
VALERIUS Antias 279
M. Terentius VARRO, Res rusticae 35738
De lingua latina en cours
De vita populi Romani 2042
Antiquitates rerum divinarum en cours
Fragments grammaticaux en cours
Fragments historiques en cours
Fragments e/pistolaires 131
Menippearum reliquiae 6511
Antiquitatum rerum humanarum 988
P. Terentius VARRO Atacinus 264
VERANIUS 35
VERGILIUS, Eclogae (lemme-analyse) 5695
Georgica (lemme-analyse) 14821
Aeneis 1-6 (lemme-analyse) 32158
VITRUVIUS (lemme-analyse) 57527
VOLUMNIUS 4
VOLCACIUS Sedigitus 123
GREEK TEXTS:
ANDOCIDE 17430
ANTIPHON 18108
ARISTOTE, Cate/gories 10268
De anima 21031
Me/thaphysique 79351
Parties des animaux 38709
Poe/tique 10284
Physique 55686
Politique en cours
Ge/ne/ration des animaux en cours
Bibliothe\que d'Apollodore 27264
Corpus Hermeticum 36566
ISOCRATE 119124
LYSIAS 57316
MARC-AURELE en cours
PLATON, Euthyphron 5187
Apologie 8783
Criton 4183
Phe/don en cours
Cratyle en cours

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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 92 12:51+0000
From: Heberlein@KU-EICHSTAETT.DBP.DE
Subject: Re: Latin Tagged Text

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Lasla has indeed some tagged latin Texts; in 1991
there were 52 available (ca. 1 million of words).
The license fee in 1991 was
12000 Deutschmarks (ca S8000).
But many of them are not in the very best shape and
we are still working hard to correct them...
The format is essentially as follows:
Lemma + Textform + Code (11 columns).
Grettings, Fritz Heberlein