5.0126 N/Q: Internet; E-Mail; Wordlists; Hebrew Software (5/119)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Thu, 6 Jun 91 16:54:33 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 5, No. 0126. Thursday, 6 Jun 1991.

(1) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 14:07:55 PDT (32 lines)
From: abosse@reed.edu
Subject: Humanities Related Services via Internet

(2) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 91 17:12 CDT (7 lines)
Subject: e-address for U. Manchester

(3) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 21:28:42 EDT (24 lines)
From: Ed Haupt <haupt@pilot.njin.net>
Subject: german-wordlist

(4) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 91 13:07:17 MST (12 lines)
From: Skip Knox <DUSKNOX@IDBSU>
Subject: Need an address

(5) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 91 13:57:48 -0500 (44 lines)
From: Alan D Corre <corre@convex.csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Modern Hebrew Software

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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 14:07:55 PDT
From: abosse@reed.edu
Subject: Humanities Related Services via Internet

I have a compratatively simple question: What online resources are
available to Internet users interested in the Humanities?

By way of background to this question I want to say that I have been
working for some time now on an on-line depository of information and
datafiles on the Internet and its services (Reed College just joined
the Internet a few months ago). So far, I have the following

Internet Resource Manual
On-Line Library catalogues
Bitnet and Internet Discussion groups
FTP sites
Mail Guides and Help

Clearly, the major source of information is in the Internet Resource
Manual, which lists the MEMDB and DANTE databases and so forth. I
have also subscribed to a few relevant discussion groups, such as
NETSCOUT and plan to post this question there as well.

So, am I missing anything important?

many thanks in advance,

Arno Bosse
Reed College
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Date: Wed, 05 Jun 91 17:12 CDT
Subject: e-address for U. Manchester

Can anyone supply the e-address for the Univ. of Manchester? I'd
like to know if a colleague there has an e-account, and thought I'd
contact the postmaster. Thanks much. Larry Hurtado, Univ. of Manitoba.
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 21:28:42 EDT
From: Ed Haupt <haupt@pilot.njin.net>
Subject: german-wordlist

Thanks to 'archie', which is telnet to quiche.cs.mcgill.ca and login as
'archie', I found a better German wordlist than I mentioned before.

ftp (anonymous) to mojo.eng.umd.edu,

and in /incoming, you will find german-wordlist.Z--only 751k. It
uncompresesses to 2060k. It has -e spellings for the Umlaeute and all
the forms, including genetive, so it works nicely with ispell.

Does anyone know of german/french/spanish/italian, etc. versions of ispell
so that you could use a shorter list?

Pardon the unixisms. Questions about them will be answered.
I assume that it would be worth looking on 'archie' for french, spanish, etc.

Edward J. Haupt voice: (201) 893-4327
Department of Psychology internet: haupt@pilot.njin.net
Montclair State College bitnet: haupt@njin
Upper Montclair, NJ 07043
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 91 13:07:17 MST
From: Skip Knox <DUSKNOX@IDBSU>
Subject: Need an address

I've seen a number of people here who use Nota Bene. I colleague would
like an address and phone number (is it still Dragonfly Software?).
He's not on Bitnet yet, so I said I'd post the request for him.
Thanks in advance.

Historian, Data Center Associate
Boise State University DUSKNOX@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 91 13:57:48 -0500
From: Alan D Corre <corre@convex.csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Modern Hebrew Software

I am currently working on a piece of software for Modern Hebrew which
will, I believe, address a problem in a uniquely computational way. The
Hebrew script has limited used of vowels (thy rnt rlly ncssry r thy?)
and modern Hebrew rarely uses the archaic add-on vowel-pointing system
which no longer represents the reality. This creates a problem for
foreign students. Either you teach them a complicated and eventually
useless vowel system, or they can't read simple words without
substantial help. In my system, the student will learn words in a
vowelled English transcription. When she types this into one window,
another window will produce the unvowelled Hebrew script equivalent.
Type in *melex* ("king") and the other window produces
mem--lamed--final-kaf as you type. The notion is that the student
should be able to read back the Hebrew because he knew what he typed in!
Is this a kind of ITA? A psychologist friend says no, because the
student already knows the Latin alphabet. Moreover, later, the student
will be able to "write" Hebrew by typing in the transcription, and
"real" Hebrew will appear on paper. One other thing. Any time the
student wants, she can switch off the Latin script echoing, so she is
mentally typing in *melex* but seeing only mem--lamed--final-kaf.

Could this make the student hooked on the computer such that he cannot
write Hebrew save through this medium? Maybe. But I am hooked on my
spectacles and thyroid pills (hi there, Barbara and George) and don't
worry about it. And can kids today do mental arithmetic when five bucks
buys a calculator? Only the computer makes such a procedure possible.
I tried such a thing years ago using programmed instruction and a tape,
but it was too clumsy. It should be done neatly in the Mac lab.

Incidentally, I originally intended to do this using HyperCard. But I
found that I detested the language, and it was terribly slow. So I am
using the Mac version of the Icon programming language, called ProIcon,
and that is doing fine. In the event, this was fortunate, because the
lab seems to have problems in downloading HyperCard, but not ProIcon

PS In order to learn HyperCard, I plugged in some Jewish kids' stories I
wrote years ago, and got a student to illustrate them for me. Then I
animated the illustrations. This came out real nice (unlike the
language thing) and it was published last week by Davka Corp of Chicago.
But no more on that in case you think I'm advertising or something.