5.0072 Responses: Gender, Guns, Philosophy, Copyright (5/58)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Thu, 16 May 91 16:58:22 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 5, No. 0072. Thursday, 16 May 1991.


(1) Date: Thu, 16 May 91 02:18:17 EST (19 lines)
From: LNGDANAP@VM.UOGUELPH.CA
Subject: gender/children

(2) Date: Wed, 15 May 91 20:38:57 CST (9 lines)
From: Marcus Smith <SMITHM@LOYNOVM>
Subject: Re: 5.0060 Responses: Gatling Gun; Philosophy

(3) Date: Wed, 15 May 1991 11:15 MST (7 lines)
From: OCRAMER%CCNODE@VAXF.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Re: 5.0054 Qs: Gatlin Gun; Sojourner Truth; ...

(4) Date: Wed, 15 May 91 22:05 PDT (10 lines)
From: KESSLER <IME9JFK@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: 5.0060 Responses: ... Philosophy

(5) Date: Thu, 16 May 91 12:24:01 CDT (13 lines)
From: "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: 5.0058 More on Copyright

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Date: Thu, 16 May 91 02:18:17 EST
From: LNGDANAP@VM.UOGUELPH.CA
Subject: gender/children


Re: gender of children

I am not an expert in historical English linguistics, and would
welcome corrections on the following observations. In Middle
English, the word "girl" was used for a child of either sex (a
variant of which persisted until the 19th century in the expression:
green girl), which leads one to suppose that the correct pronoun
might well have been "it" for children under the age of reason,
or, alternatively, under the age of puberty. At either of these
"ages", children became adults, therefore of social importance;
before that time, their social importance was merely potential
(and given the mortality rate of children then, this was sadly
rational); referring to them by gender would then seem to be
unnecessary except in unusual circumstances...
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Date: Wed, 15 May 91 20:38:57 CST
From: Marcus Smith <SMITHM@LOYNOVM>
Subject: Re: 5.0060 Responses: Gatling Gun; Philosophy (3/64)

There is a nifty book called THE SOCIAL HISTORY OF THE MACHINE GUN which has
some fascinating information on the role of MGs in shaping the world. My
copy was swiped (it's that sort of a book), but I think it was published in
the 1970s and I recall (but would not bet any money on it) that the author's
name is OWEN.
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Date: Wed, 15 May 1991 11:15 MST
From: OCRAMER%CCNODE@VAXF.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Re: 5.0054 Qs: Gatlin Gun; Sojourner Truth; ... (4/96)

I bet Marc Smith means Noel Coward's song about the Maxim Gun: the oper-
ative line (quoted from memory) is "Whatever happens, we have got/ The
Maxim Gun, and they have not." Owen Cramer
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Date: Wed, 15 May 91 22:05 PDT
From: KESSLER <IME9JFK@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: 5.0060 Responses: ... Philosophy

I know what Monty does for a living; I know Monty quite well in fact.
But try t aking courses at UCLA, and look at most of their roster. If
and when they teach at all...JK. And Foot, and etc. Though Phillippa
retires this year. But most o f the department is not interested int he
Humanities at all. After 30 years, I am apprised of this rather well, I
think. Their main enterprise(s), I mean.
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Date: Thu, 16 May 91 12:24:01 CDT
From: "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: 5.0058 More on Copyright (2/138)

I am not sure Robin Cover realized that I not only received permission
to publish my articles via etext, but that I did not surrender a right
or rights and that the copyright was posted locally, not by publishers
or anyone else.

Michael S. Hart

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