4.1238 Qs: Lillabullero; Godgame; many others... (8/160)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Sun, 14 Apr 91 21:52:40 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 4, No. 1238. Sunday, 14 Apr 1991.


(1) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 91 10:11 EDT (44 lines)
From: "Tom Benson 814-865-4201" <T3B@PSUVM>
Subject: Graduate study in ancient history/philosophy

(2) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 11:03:34 PDT (8 lines)
From: Paul_Delany@cc.sfu.ca
Subject: e-mail addresses

(3) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 13:47:44 EDT (26 lines)
From: David Sewell <dsew@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Subject: Request for fiction titles

(4) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 14:49:40 +0200 (12 lines)
From: nubo001@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (H. Borchers)
Subject: Cross-cultural training

(5) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 22:57:24 CDT (21 lines)
From: Charles Ess <DRU001D@SMSVMA>
Subject: story source

(6) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1991 21:53 EST (25 lines)
From: Len Bliss <BLISSLB@APPSTATE.BITNET>
Subject: Translation of <Grand Inquisitor>

(7) Date: 11 Apr 91 21:35:45 EDT (16 lines)
From: George Aichele <73760.1176@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: [Lillabullero]

(8) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 15:03 O (8 lines)
From: <GRAHAM@EGFRCUVX>
Subject: Address query

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Date: Sat, 13 Apr 91 10:11 EDT
From: "Tom Benson 814-865-4201" <T3B@PSUVM>
Subject: Graduate study in ancient history/philosophy

I am writing to seek advice from fellow HUMANISTS on behalf
of a student who is not on the electronic network. The student
is a graduating senior in philosophy at Penn State, the winner
of this year's Shibley Award for "excellence in philosophical
studies." She has studied widely in the history of philosophy
including a number of graduate seminars, and is completing minors
in history and Italian. She has spent semesters studying in
Paris (Sorbonne), Rome, and Athens. She speaks/reads French,
Italian, German, modern Greek, and has completed a year of
classical Greek.

Now the problem. Sarah wants to switch fields and study an
interdisciplinary mix of ancient history, classics, and
philosophy, with a view to doing scholarship in ancient
historiography from a philosophical perspective. It's graduation
time and the one elite graduate school in ancient history to which
she applied for admission has (probably not unreasonably) turned
her down because she is not yet at graduate level in Greek and
Latin.

I'd be grateful for suggestions as to:

(1) Are there good programs at which such a student could spend
an intensive year studying Greek and Latin as a prelude to gaining
admission to an excellent graduate program?

(2) What graduate programs would you especially recommend to a
young scholar with Sarah's mix of interests?

(3) Do you know of a graduate program that might still have openings
(ideally with financial support) for the coming year, even at this
late date?

Thanks.

Tom Benson t3b@psuvm (bitnet)
Penn State University
227 Sparks Building, University Park, PA 16802
(814) 865-4201; (814) 238-5277

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 11:03:34 PDT
From: Paul_Delany@cc.sfu.ca
Subject: e-mail addresses

Does anyone have e-mail addresses for 1) Sue Stigleman and 2) M.
Zimmerman, author of "Notes on Free Text Information Retrieval"
Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 13:47:44 EDT
From: David Sewell <dsew@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Subject: Request for fiction titles

On short notice I've been asked to pick up our senior (undergraduate)
Honors Seminar for next fall, and need to come up with a list of
readings quickly. I've proposed as a title "Fiction as Godgame," and
plan to do a modified version of a course I've been teaching this year
in the contemporary American metafictional tradition. But I'd like to
expand my repertoire both chronologically and geographically, and so am
asking Humanists for suggested readings.

I'm going to be focusing on the concept of autonomous characters as
articulated by e.g. Bakhtin and John Fowles (from whose _Aristos_ the
term "godgame" is borrowed), and will include texts, mostly novels, in
which the author-character relationship is particularly in question:
Fowles, Coover, Murdoch, Barth, to take some obvious examples. (There's
also a pretty awful novel by Andrew Greeley called _God Game_ in which
the theological ramifications are explored in great detail...) I'm
wondering where I might look in pre-20th century literature; Twain's
_Mysterious Stranger_ stories, Shakespeare's _Tempest_ come to mind.

I'll be most grateful for any suggestions along these lines.

David Sewell, English Dep't, U. of Rochester dsew@cc.rochester.edu

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 91 14:49:40 +0200
From: nubo001@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (H. Borchers)
Subject: Cross-cultural training

I'm interested in discussion lists that deal with intercultural communica-
tion, more specifically the problems and/or technique of cross-cultural
training. Does anyone know of a list or lists of this particular orienta-
tion?

Hans Borchers, University of Tuebingen, Germany
nubo001@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 22:57:24 CDT
From: Charles Ess <DRU001D@SMSVMA>
Subject: story source

A student asked me today if I knew the source of the following story.
I didn't, and haven't a clue as to where to start looking -- except here,
of course.

The gist of the story is that as the birth of Jesus approached, God knew
S/he would have to protect the new baby from Satan and his temptations --
and God disguised Jesus (or in some other unspecified way tricked the
Prince of Evil...).

My student thought this came from Augustine, which makes no sense to
me. It sounds instead like medieval folklore, but I'm not a medievalist.

All clues, suggestions, hints, or even direct references will be greatly
appreciated.

Charles Ess
Drury College
Springfield, MO 65802

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1991 21:53 EST
From: Len Bliss <BLISSLB@APPSTATE.BITNET>
Subject: Translation of <Grand Inquisitor>

My wife is a graduate student at the University of North Carolina at
Greensboro. In one of her classes she was assigned to read <The Grand
Inquisitor> from <The Brothers Karamazov>. She purchased the Signet
Classic edition (New American Library, 1980) translated by Constance
Garnett and edited by Manuel Komroff. During the discussion in class,
she noted that her edition portrays Jesus kissing the Inquisitor "softly
on the forehead" while all the editions owned by her classmates has the
Inquisitor being kissed on "his old, bloodless lips." Later on, where
Alyosha kisses Ivan, her edition has Ivan being kissed on the forehead
while the other editions (same translator) has him being kissed on his
lips. What we obviously have here is an editorial change, but it appears
to Linda that the change completely changes tone and symbolism of the kiss.
Not having Russian as any of our languages, we have no idea what
Dostoyevsky might have actually written. Is there anyone out there who
can enlighten us on this and comment on the appropriateness of either of
the translations?

Len Bliss
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC

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Date: 11 Apr 91 21:35:45 EDT
From: George Aichele <73760.1176@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: query

On behalf of an offline friend, I am seeking any information concerning the
song "Lillabullero," which Uncle Toby whistles ceaselessly throughout TRISTRAM
SHANDY. Its history, relevance to Sterne's novel (if any), words (if any),
available recordings or sheet music--any information at all. He thinks he
heard it as a child fifty years ago in England, but is not sure. Any help
would be deeply appreciated, and might even persuade him to get online.
Thanks.

George Aichele
73760.1176@compuserve.com


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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 15:03 O
From: <GRAHAM@EGFRCUVX>
Subject: Address query

Anyone know an email address for Norman Zacour,
a medievalist in Toronto (I think at PIMS)?
Graham White
American University in Cairo