4.0569 Macs/Characters; Foot Mice; Computer vs. Computer (4/80)
Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Fri, 5 Oct 90 14:00:21 EDT
Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 4, No. 0569. Friday, 5 Oct 1990.
(1) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 90 16:58:17 PDT (21 lines)
From: tshannon@garnet.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: 4.0565 Rs: Telnet & Library Catalogs; Apostrophes
(2) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 90 23:05:32 PDT (33 lines)
From: DONWEBB@CALSTATE (Donald Webb)
Subject: Qurly cuotes
(3) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 90 8:51 GMT (7 lines)
From: PETERR@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Subject: RE: 4.0564 Adapting the Machine
(4) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 90 14:09:15 EDT (19 lines)
From: "Adam C. Engst" <PV9Y@CORNELLA>
Subject: Re: 4.0564 Adapting the Machine
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Date: Thu, 4 Oct 90 16:58:17 PDT
From: tshannon@garnet.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: 4.0565 Rs: Telnet & Library Catalogs; Apostrophes (2/36)
Re the question on capital U's on files transferred from a Mac
to a mainframe, I can confirm the source of the problem (I also
believe that curly apostrophes turn up as capital Ts!). In most
word processing programs for the Mac (e.g. Word) you can turn off
curly quotes (under preferences); this will then insure that the
proper codes understandable by the mainframe will be inserted.
Alternatively, in (at least some) communications software (e.g.
RedRyder, I believe) and other programs like Add-Strip you can
set the feature to "uncurl" these problem-causers. Whatever
you choose, it sure beats having to "uncurl" them yourself, as
I can amply testify!!
Best wishes,
tom shannon
ucberkeley
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Date: Thu, 04 Oct 90 23:05:32 PDT
From: DONWEBB@CALSTATE (Donald Webb)
Subject: Qurly cuotes
Ruth (<HANSCHKA@HARTFORD>) writes Mon, 1 Oct 90 (Subject: re: Re: 4.0535
Musings: Disciplines, Universities &): "I think I have a solution to
your apostrophe problem. Get rid of that Mac and get yourself a real
computer! No IBM compatible I've ever used has had a VT100
incompatibility problem." -- Okay, I accept your :-) disclaimer, but
your posting is apostrophacalyptic literature for us Macfanatics! My
response: Argh! :-O (you gotta be kidding face).
Romance-language accent marks come built in, but the curly-quotes option
is software. Likewise, terminal emulation is a software feature. My
Versaterm 3.2 - chosen for its modest size and ease of use - emulates
VT100, Tek 4014 and DG D200. Other applications may have other options.
As for a "real" computer, well, I got a Mac precisely because it can
write just about any Roman or non-Roman alphabet you might like, allows
you to use any or all in the same line, and displays them on the screen,
neat as you please - no arbitrary characters.
I admit, though, you do have to remember to find-replace characters that
have ascii equivalents, hence the need to replace the curly-quotes and
apostrophes with tick marks before saving the text to send as e-mail.
What ever happened to that discussion about how us mac peeple dont rite
so good?!
Seriously, some of my best friends use IBM... :-) ! Oops... better get
back on line... (Going off line is another Versaterm - not necessarily
Mac - feature)...
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Date: Thu, 4 Oct 90 8:51 GMT
From: PETERR@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Subject: RE: 4.0564 Adapting the Machine (2/25)
So now a 'real computer' is one that is VT100 compatible. What a shame
about all those VT220s, 320s, Crays, etc etc..
Peter Robinson
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Date: Thu, 04 Oct 90 14:09:15 EDT
From: "Adam C. Engst" <PV9Y@CORNELLA>
Subject: Re: 4.0564 Adapting the Machine (2/25)
For more information on foot mice and the like, those who have access to
a Mac and HyperCard could look at two articles we've written in TidBITS,
one on ALternate Limb controllers and one on a new controller interface
that will use 3-D Nintendo controllers. They are in the 7/16/90 and
9/3/90 issues respectively (#13 & 19), which can be found at most large
LISTSERV sites that carry Mac software. Two good ones are MACSERVE@PUCC
and LISTSERV@RICEVM1. A good command to start with is TELL LISTSERV@RICEVM1
HELP and see what they tell you as far as retrieving files.
Adam Engst
Adam C. Engst pv9y@cornella.cit.cornell.edu
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