4.0079 Sneaking into Bedrooms (59)
Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Sat, 19 May 90 19:51:04 EDT
Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 4, No. 0079. Saturday, 19 May 1990.
(1) Date: Thu, 17 May 90 21:07:40 EST (13 lines)
From: Naama Zahavi-Ely <ELINZE@YALEVM>
Subject: Re: 4.0057 Sneaking into Bedrooms
(2) Date: Thursday, 17 May 1990 2107-EST (20 lines)
From: KRAFT@PENNDRLS
Subject: Biblical Bedrooms
(3) Date: Fri, 18 May 90 07:17 EDT (20 lines)
From: "Leslie Z. Morgan" <MORGAN@LOYVAX>
Subject: sneaking into bedrooms, cont.
(4) Date: Fri, 18 May 90 10:48 CDT (6 lines)
From: Michael Ossar <MLO@KSUVM>
Subject: sneaking into bedrooms and nerds
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Date: Thu, 17 May 90 21:07:40 EST
From: Naama Zahavi-Ely <ELINZE@YALEVM>
Subject: Re: 4.0057 Sneaking into Bedrooms (89)
Hello!
Sorry for the slip of fingers in my previous posting: I meant, of
course, the story of Lea and Rachel, not Rivka. See Genesis, ch.29, and
especially verses 21-25.
-Naama Zahavi-Ely
elinze@yalevm.bitnet
Zahavi-Ely-Naama@Yale.Edu
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Date: Thursday, 17 May 1990 2107-EST
From: KRAFT@PENNDRLS
Subject: Biblical Bedrooms
Lest the HUMANIST biblical savants be condemned too quickly for
inattention, it wasn't poor desirable Rachel who snuck her weak-eyed
sister Leah into the honeymoon bed in Genesis 29.23, but scheming daddy
Laban, who parlayed the move into another 7 year hitch for patient
Jacob! Wasn't that the question? What females substituted another
female in a conjugal situation? Sarah almost does it to Abraham by
substuting her maid Hagar in Genesis 16.2, but it is presented as a
preconceived situation (pun fully intended). Indeed, Rebekah
substitutes one son for the other to gain Isaac's blessing in Genesis 27,
but that is another sort of story. The Judah-Tamar story comes closer,
with the seemingly anonymous harlot (Tamar in disguise) substituting
Tamar herself so as to conceive by her fearful father-in-law as a
protest against his inattention to social and legal conventions. Check
it out in Genesis 38. Great story!
Bob Kraft, U. Penn
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Date: Fri, 18 May 90 07:17 EDT
From: "Leslie Z. Morgan" <MORGAN@LOYVAX>
Subject: sneaking into bedrooms, cont.
For a classic selection of lovers brought into bedrooms, see Poggio's
*Facetiae*. One good one give an example) is V. A peasant discovered
his wife had "two vaginas" and therefore offered one to the church (at
his wife's suggestion). Thus she was able to bring the priest to bed
with them, with her husband's full consent. There's an English
translation- Hurwood is the translator's name.
If you're interested in such materials, there's an excellent new book
out, *Festum Voluptatis*, by David Frantz (Ohio STate University Press,
1989). The second half (which I haven't yet read, since it's about
English materials- Italian is my field) might interest the poster of the
original inquiry.
Leslie Morgan (MORGAN@LOYVAX1)
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Date: Fri, 18 May 90 10:48 CDT
From: Michael Ossar <MLO@KSUVM>
Subject: sneaking into bedrooms and nerds
On sneaking into bedrooms, don't forget Helena and Diana in All's Well
that Ends Well. ... [eds]