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Date:         1 July 1987, 14:09:01 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      Article in SCOPE 5.2 (March-April 1987): 13, 19.
 
Those of you at ICCH87 who attended the meeting in which the idea
for HUMANIST was born will remember that Joe Raben, publisher of
CHum and editor of SCOPE, was there. He has described that
meeting and its significance in the latest issue of SCOPE. As one
of the pioneers of computing in the humanities, Joe must be very
familiar with the role of revolutionary outcast and with what one
must do to keep the faith, and keep it intelligently, in a time
of little recognition or outright rejection. His counsels have an
authority for that reason.
 
Joe calls us "the avant-garde, who are uniting humanistic values
with technological means." He says that we are developing "a
broader vision [than our counterparts in traditional fields] by
serving colleagues from many departments," thus learning "the
skills of many disciplines." He compares us to the
anthropologists, who emerged from history and classics, to
psychologists from philosophy, and to linguists from language
departments. "And in every case, the exiles have developed more
rapidly as innovators and challengers of received knowledge."
 
He recommends that academics without a proper job turn the
university's rejection to their advantage by using the time
liberated from teaching to develop knowledge and skills far
beyond what is possible for their teaching colleagues. Then he
gets to us HUMANISTs. "In better touch with comrades on other
campuses, because they understand and utilize computer-based
communications, they will forge an association with a potential
far beyond that of current professional organizations."
 
No academic without a proper appointment needs to be told the
other side of the story. I think it's useful, however, to be
shown the golden aspects of what usually seems an iron-aged
actuality. Nevertheless, if the gold's to be grasped, I also
think we need to develop some clear notions of how computing in
the humanities can make a scholarly contribution to scholarship.
Hand-waving won't help, nor will promises to prove the
unprovable. Speaking in terms of my own field, I am forced by
experience to recognize the necessarily tentative (and therefore
disturbing) nature of literary arguments: like us they're mortal
and problematic, but also like us they can occasionally reach
beyond our historical and personal limitations. I don't see
anything wrong with the traditional scholarly values, which most
of our non-computing colleagues appear not to follow anyhow, but
I do see great dangers still in pseudo-scientific ideas of truth,
evidence, and proof. They will discredit as well as mislead us.
 
So what can computing do for us as scholars that itself deserves
a place in scholarship? Good answers to this question should be
translatable into software and so be put to the test.
 
[This message is about 50 lines long.]
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Date:         Thu,  2 Jul 87 12:03:02 GMT
Reply-To:     CMI011%UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.IBM@AC.UK
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From:         CMI011%UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.IBM@AC.UK
 
 
What about some light relief? Those of you who are Unix types may have
come across 'fortune cookies' or 'yow' (part of Gnuemacs), which print
a random line or two of wisdom on the screen when invoked. It is also
used in my department as part of a lock screen on Sun workstations; systems
which are not in use sit and display random quotes at intervals on the screen
to stop any given message burning into the phosphor (is this true?).
 
so what, you say? well, in an effort to justify humanities in a computer
science world, I have replaced the 'yow' database with verses of poetry
(all of TS Eliot, most of Bob Dylan and a lot of Brian Patten). What a relief
to have pithy thoughts come up every so often instead of mindless
American aphorisms!
 
who said poetry had no place in the modern world?
sebastian rahtz. computer science, southampton, uk
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Date:         4 July 1987, 14:57:04 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      Biographies
 
All of you should receive within the next day or so the file HUMANIST
BIOGRAFY, ca. 50K, 950 lines. Please let me know if it does not arrive
intact.
As soon as we figure out how to keep files centrally, on UTORONTO, I'll
put HUMANIST BIOGRAFY there. It will then be your responsibility to keep
your entry updated. Any changes or additions should be sent to me
directly. I'd also like to hear from you if you have any suggestions or
comments about the format or contents of this file.
If a sufficient number of you who didn't send in an entry do so in the near
future, I'll issue a supplement. Approximately 5/8 of the membership is
represented in the current file.
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Date:         5 July 1987, 12:12:30 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      address correction
 
In HUMANIST BIOGRAFY Leslie Burkholder's e-mail address was incorrectly
given. Mea culpa. It should be as follows:
lb0q@te.cc.cmu.edu.bitnet      OR
lb0q#@andrew.cmu.edu.bitnet    OR
lb0q#@andrew.cmu.edu.arpanet
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Date:         Mon,  6 Jul 87 11:00:41 GMT
Reply-To:     CMI011%UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.IBM@AC.UK
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         CMI011%UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.IBM@AC.UK
 
 
I forgot to say in my note about the Uses and Abuses of Poetry that, of
course, the source for my text of TS Eliot and Bob Dylan was Lou
Burnard's _Oxford Text Archive_. Jolly highly recommended...
 
The interesting point arises of copyright etc; these bleeding chunks of
poetry (a verse or 10 lines, whichever is shorter) are displayed under
control of a program which the average punter cannot get at; nor can they
normally access the source file. So to that extent I am not giving the text
out to all and sundry. Nor am I 'publishing' it in a form that a literary
 
 
person could read for sense. But if you were sufficiently patient you
could acquire the whole of the Waste Land bit by bit, like a jigsaw.
 
Ergo, I ask you all - is this publication? Have we identified a way
in which electronic media genuinely confuse the issue?
 
sebastian rahtz. computer science, southampton, uk
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Date:         Mon,  6 Jul 87 12:13:16 CDT
Reply-To:     Michael Sperberg-McQueen <U18189@UICVM>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Michael Sperberg-McQueen <U18189@UICVM>
Subject:      copyright Rahtz's copyright conundrum
 
REPLY TO 07/06/87 11:00 FROM CMI011%UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.IBM@AC.UK: copyright
 
 
Sebastian Rahtz's example of semi-/may-be-/may-not-be "publication"
of Eliot and Dylan lyrics provides an interesting thought experiment.
Is displaying such small chunks of verse on a screen, at random,
"publication"?  I think there must be two issues here:  is it
publication if we quote only small pieces of the text?  and is
it publication if we only show the pieces on a VDT, as opposed
to paper?
 
I think both are interesting questions.
 
If my understanding of copyright doctrine is correct, though,
the lawyers have already answered the first question:  quotation of a
line or two of verse -- particularly of a song lyric -- counts
as publication and normally requires permission of the copyright
holder.  Hence the distracting copyright notices you see at the
bottom of pages where a short story writer has quoted a popular
song for atmosphere.  (This may be different in the UK, but
I always thought your copyright laws were more stringent, not
less, than ours.)
 
On the second issue, one might argue that display on a screen
in a public place is a "making public" and thus a "publication."
I assume the publishers line up here.  One might conversely argue
that a departmental terminal room is not really public, and thus
preserve the refreshingly literate air of the place by claiming
that this should fall into the "fair use" category.  I would hate
to see this use turn out to be a copyright violation!
 
Medievalists have it easier, I think:  if I put stanzas of
Minnesang or random quotations from Chaucer up (and got them
from a nineteenth-century edition), the copyright issue would
not arise.  (And if I used a twentieth-century edition, chances
are very slim that anyone could tell the difference.)  On
the other hand, none of the terminal users would understand
them.  Perhaps one could use Wyatt, Donne, or Sidney?
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Date:         Tue,  7 Jul 87 11:01:29 GMT
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From:         CMI011%UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.IBM@AC.UK
 
 
If no more notes appear from me, you can assume the Bob Dylan, Brian Patten
and the executors of TS Eliot have haled me off to jail. I think I will
put up Chaucer instead... the suggestion of Donne is ironic, in that the
machines concerned are called Donne, Webster, Spenser, Jonson, Marlowe and
Fletcher. Yesterday Jonson's lock screen display quoted that bit of Eliot
about Webster    and Donne to me.
 
Anyway, can I return to the question of teaching Prolog? Scott Campbell asks
who wants Arts graduates who know Prolog, as opposed to those who have
'a "competent user" level of familiarity'. I disagree with Scott on two
points:
 a) Arts graduates are no different or worse than anyone else. ie they are
likely to go into the big bad world and work in a big business. and what will
they use in the BBW? - spreadsheets, word-processing and simple database
querying - hence the argument for teaching use of SQL, as it gives a very
convenient upgrade path to a fuller understanding of relational database
design, and mapping of the real world into that way of thinking. So to
that extent, no programming need be taught at all.
 
 b) I dont agree (pace Philippe Kahn) that "Prolog = AI = 5th generation" ;
on the one hand there are expert systems, and there is AI, which may find
Prolog a suitable vehicle; but on the other there are 5th generation languages
(of which Prolog is a crude example) which many people (supposedly) find
easier to use on a day to day basis. You can do anything you like with Prolog,
so it need not be seen as an either/or situation, with Prolog or Lisp being
seen as only suitable for expert systems, and Icon seen as only suitable for
string processing. All these computer languages are problem-solving notations,
which different people may find more or less easier to use to solve their
given problem.
 
I suppose the question is whether undergraduates have problems to solve;
my argument is the specious and out-dated one that learning to solve
problems with a formal notation is fun, interesting and vaguely useful.
There is a much stronger argument, though, that the students EXPECT to
learn some programming.
 
sebastian rahtz. computer science, southampton, uk
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Date:         7 July 1987, 10:12:25 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
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From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      Vapographies
 
Some HUMANISTs in the UK have complained that HUMANIST BIOGRAFY has not
arrived. Please let me know immediately if you haven't received your
copy, and I'll send it forthwith.
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Date:         Tue,  7 Jul 87 17:15:47 GMT
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From:         CMI011%UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.IBM@AC.UK
 
 
Job Advertisement
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I would be grateful if HUMANIST readers could draw the attention of
job-seekers in their locality to a post of Research Assistant in the
Departments of Electronics & Computer Science, and Archaeology, in the
University of Southampton, UK; we need someone to work on an graphical
database of archaeological artifacts. I can send more details as required,
but basically we are after someone with graphical/image-processing
background in computer science, and some archaeology. The post is for
2 years, and pays c. 10,000 pounds p.a. Work will be in Southampton
on a Sun workstation.
 
Thanks. Please direct enquiries (applications need to be within a month
or so) to me:
    cmi011@uk.ac.soton.ibm
sebastian rahtz, computer science, southampton, UK
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Date:         7 July 1987, 22:10:08 EDT
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Subject:      The ACH and the ALLC
 
____________________________________________________________________
|     The Association for Computers and the Humanities (ACH)       |
| and the Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing (ALLC) |
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The following describes the two professional associations that
sponsor HUMANIST. For further information, please contact the named
individuals directly.
 
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                           The ACH
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The Association for Computers and the Humanities is an
international organization devoted to encouraging the development
and use of computers and computing techniques in humanities
research and education. Traditionally, ACH has fostered
computer-aided research in literature and language, history,
philosophy, anthropology, and related social sciences as well as
computer use in the creation and study of art, music, and dance.
As computing applications in the humanities have developed and
broadened in the 1980s, the Association has expanded its scope to
include areas from word processing to computer-assisted
instruction in composition, language, history, philosophy, and
anthropology, as well as computational linguistics and cognitive
science, which overlap increasingly with work in the area of
humanities computing.
 
Founded in 1977, ACH is the primary professional society in the
U.S. for scholars involved or interested in any aspect of
humanities computing. The Association provides a forum for
continuing communication about humanities computing and strives
to meet the needs of those who want to gain familiarity with both
existing and potential applications of computers in humanities
disciplines.
 
                           Publications
 
ACH members receive a subscription to Computers and the
Humanities, a quarterly journal devoted to scholarship in the
field of humanities computing. CHum is published 4 times a year
by Paradigm Press.
 
The heart of ACH is its quarterly newsletter, which covers the
activities of the Association and its members and includes
articles on various areas within humanities computing, news of
projects and conferences of interest to ACH members, and reports
on the activities of governmental agencies and other
organizations that affect computer-aided humanities research.
 
 
                              Meetings
 
ACH sponsors the bi-annual International Conference on Computers
and the Humanities (ICCH), held in odd-numbered years, which
brings together scholars from around the world to report on
research activities and software and hardware developments in the
field. Recently, ACH began to sponsor conferences and workshops
on specialized topics in humanities computing, held in
even-numbered years.
 
The Ninth International Conference for Computers and the
Humanities (ICCH/89) will be held in conjunction with the annual
conference of the Association for Literary and Linguistic
Computing in Toronto, Canada, in June 1989. In June 1988, ACH
will sponsor a conference on Teaching Computers and the
Humanities Courses, to be held at Oberlin College in Ohio.
 
 
                            Affiliations
 
Because of the interdisciplinary nature of humanities computing,
ACH maintains close ties with a number of organizations with
overlapping interests, in order to provide its members with
information from within specialized areas of the field of
humanities computing and to keep others informed of work within
the discipline. ACH is closely allied with the European-based
Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing and co-sponsors
its annual conference. ACH is also closely allied with the
Association for Computational Linguistics. ACH sponsors sessions
devoted entirely to humanities computing at the annual meetings
of the Modern Language Association, the Linguistic Society of
America, and at the National Educational Computing Conference.
 
                            Membership
 
Membership is for the calendar year and is open to all scholars
interested in humanities computing. The benefits include
 
  Subscription to the quarterly ACH Newsletter.
 
  Subscription to Computers and the Humanties.
 
  The options of subscribing to SCOPE (Scholarly Communications:
  On line Publishing and Education), Research in Word Processing
  Newsletter, and Bits and Bytes Review at reduced rates.
 
  Reduced registration fee at the International Conference on
  Computers and the Humanities and at meetings of the Assocation
  for Literary and Linguistic Computing.
 
  Reduced membership fee in ACH regional affiliate organizations.
 
  Discounts on books and special issues of journals devoted to
  humanities computing.
 
  The intangible benefits derived from associating with others
  who are interested and involved in humanities computing!
 
                       Membership information
 
  ACH MEMBERSHIP Individual: $40 (US)
    Includes subscription to ACH Newsletter and Computers and the
    Humanities. NOTE: all issues of both publications for the current
    year will be sent.
 
  OPTIONAL FEES (in US $):
 
    NORTHEAST (REGIONAL) ACH MEMBERSHIP
      $10.00  per year for ACH members
    SUBSCRIPTION TO SCOPE
      $25.00 for 6 issues
    SUBSCRIPTION TO RESEARCH IN WORD PROCESSING NEWSLETTER
      $12.00 for 9 issues
    SUBSCRIPTION TO BITS & BYTES REVIEW
      $40.00 for 9 issues
 
Send application form to :
 
          Harry Lincoln, Treasurer
          Association for Computers and the Humanities
          Department of Music
          SUNY
          Binghamton, New York 13901
 
 
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                          The ALLC
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The Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing (ALLC) brings
together all who have an interest in using computers in the analysis
of text. It is an international and cross-disciplinary association,
whose members are drawn from subjects such as literature, linguistics,
lexicography, psychology, history, law and computer science. The ALLC
works closely with the American-based Association for Computers and the
Humanities.
 
                        Publications
 
The ALLC was founded in 1973 and from 1973 to 1985 published
the ALLC Bulletin three times per year. The ALLC Journal with
two issues per year began publication in 1980. In 1986 Oxford
University Press took over publication of the ALLC periodicals
to form a new quarterly journal, Literary and Linguistic Computing.
Individual membership of the Association is now by subscription
to Literary and Linguistic Computing.
 
Literary and Linguistic Computing contains scholarly refereed
papers on all aspects of computing applied to literature and
language with the emphasis as much on the computing techniques
as on the results of research projects. The range of coverage
extends to hardware and software, computer-assisted language
learning, word-processing for applications in the humanities, and
the teaching of computing techniques to students of language and
literature. The journal also has news and notes, diary, bibliography
and other items of current interest.
 
                        Conferences
 
The ALLC organises a general conference on literary and linguistic
computing in even-numberedhnears and a conference on a specialist
theme in odd-numbered years, when it also co-sponsors the
ICCH conferences organised by the Association for Computers and the
Humanities. ALLC and ACH members are entitled to reduced rates at
ALLC-sponsored events. Recent specialist themes have been Quantitative
Methods (Nice, 1985) and Linguistic Databases (Gothenburg, 1987).
The next ALLC conference will be held in Jerusalem on 5-9 June 1988
immediately before the second conference of the Association
Internationale Bible et Informatique (Computers and the Bible).
In 1989 the ALLC conference will be in conjunction with ICCH89
in Toronto, Canada.
 
The proceedings of the ALLC conferences are published by Slatkine
of Geneva in a volume of selected papers.
 
                        Representatives
 
The ALLC has representatives in approximately thirty countries or
geographical areas as well as representatives for some twenty-five
subject areas. Representatives provide information for the ALLC
membership by means of survey papers, organising special sessions
at conferences and answering queries and requests for information.
They are also able to publicise the ALLC in their own area or
discipline.
 
                        Membership
 
Subscription rates are:          Individual           Institution
 
                     UK          12 pounds            24 pounds
                     N. America  US$22.50             US$45
                     Elsewhere   14 pounds            28 pounds
 
Subscriptions should be sent to
 
Winifred Moranville        or     Journals Subscriptions
Journals Marketing                Oxford University Press
Oxford University Press           Walton Street
200 Madison Avenue                Oxford
New York                          OX2 6DP
NY 10016                          UK
 
Payment may be made by credit card.
 
Back issues of the periodicals may also be obtained from Oxford
University Press.
 
Contributions to Literary and Linguistic Computing should be sent to
Mr Gordon Dixon, Editor-in-Chief, Literary and Linguistic Computing,
Institute of Advanced Studies, Manchester Polytechnic, All Saints
Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M5 6BH, UK, electronic mail
NPUM01@UK.AC.UMIST.CN.PA [on Bitnet/NetNorth/EARN: NPUM01 at
PA.CN.UMIST.AC.UK].
 
Further information may be obtained from the Honorary Secretary, Dr T
N Corns, Department of English, University College of North Wales,
Bangor, Gwynedd LL57 2DG, UK, electronic mail V002@UK.AC.BANGOR.VAXA
[on Bitnet &c.: V002 at VAXA.BANGOR.AC.UK] or the ALLC Chairman,
Mrs Susan Hockey, Oxford University Computing Service, 13 Banbury Road,
Oxford OX2 6NN, UK, electronic mail SUSAN@UK.AC.OX.VAX2 [on Bitnet &c.:
SUSAN at VAX2.OX.AC.UK].
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Date:         8 July 1987, 12:08:42 EDT
Reply-To:     Dr Abigail Ann Young      1-416-585-4504 <YOUNG@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Dr Abigail Ann Young      1-416-585-4504 <YOUNG@UTOREPAS>
 
Subject: teaching arts students Prolog
 
I am interested by this not from the point of view of a teacher
of arts students, which alas! I am not, but as someone who herself
had to learn a programming language "late in life" (ca 30) and on
her own.  It was hard.  Aspects of it were not fun.  What I was
learning was "C" and the applications were very picayune, really,
but also very picky and precise.  (I assume, by the way, that "5th
generation languages" are something bigger, better, and brighter
than "C:" it is interesting to see how the Whig view of progress in
history as positive lives on in our attitudes towards "progressive"
generations of machines and languages.)  But what saved me from total
frustration and eventual failure was that I had a great deal of experience
in learning and teaching natural languages with very strict syntactic and
accidental conventions; and that when I was in school "problem-solving"
was part of maths.  What I mean is that we were taught how to approach
problems in an analytical way while we were also being taught geometry
and trigonometry.  I don't remember much of the maths (if I had been one
of the characters in the Musgrave Ritual the body would never have been
found) but the lessons in analysis enabled me to understand the
idea behind algorithms, etc, in the computer books I was banging my
head against.  So it seems to me that Sebastian Rahtz has a very good
point about the effect on arts students of their learning programming.
Perhaps they will never use the particular language you teach them,
*but* they will learn how to approach and analyze a problem from a
computational point of view.  And that will help them both in the Big
Bad World, if they have to use computers at all in their work; and in
the academic world (the Little Bad World?) where humanists need more than
ever to understand how to express a problem clearly in computational
terms in order to get not just a correct answer but the correct answer
to the question they want to ask.  It will also help them, if they
remain in the academic world, to view with proper skepticism both those
humanists who deny that the computer can be a valuable tool (and they
still exist, pace the latest issue of ACH Newsletter) and those who
think the computer can solve any question it is worthwhile asking
better than a human being can.
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Date:         8 July 1987, 18:26:44 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
 
The following was intended to be a note to all HUMANISTs but did not get
processed properly. I'm simply passing it on.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Date: Wed, 8 Jul 87 10:52:09 edt
>From: jdg%psc90.UUCP@DARTMOUTH.EDU (Dr. Joel Goldfield)
>Message-Id: <8707081452.AA17538@psc90.UUCP>
>To: ihnp4!princeton!seismo!HUMANIST@utoronto
>Subject:
>
>String-processing languages
>    In response to the comments of Sebastian Rahtz and others concerning
>PROLOG, ICON and string processing let me add one more:  researchers who
>have access to the UNIX system may find 'awk' to be helpful.  Named after
>its inventors at Bell Labs (Abbo, Weinberger & Kernigan, I believe, at
>the Murray Hill, NJ, facility) it's extremely dense and fast.  While the
>original documentation is sparse and esoteric, recent books on the UNIX
>system have apparently tried to correct this problem.
>    For information on the ICON language, see Mark Olsen's article
>in CHum, Jan.-March, 1987.  There's a bit of undefined "jargon" in it,
>but mainly geared toward humanists' interests.  I describe my applications
>of 'awk' in the article appearing in vol. 1 of the ALLC publication that
>Etienne Brunet edited for Slatkine (1986), pp. 455-465 approximately.
>                --Joel D. Goldfield
>                  Plymouth State College (NH, USA)
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Date:         8 July 1987, 18:33:16 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      ALLC/AIBI Conference Announcement & Call for Papers
 
--------------------------
 
             ALLC--AIBI Joint Conferences
             June 1988 -- Jerusalem, Israel
 
           Preliminary Announcement
 
    The Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing (ALLC)
and the Association Internationale Bible et Informatique (AIBI) invite
you to attend their International Conferences to be held in
June 1988 in Jerusalem. The Fifteenth Annual Conference of ALLC
will take place on June 5-9, 1988, and it will be followed
immediately by the Second Conference of AIBI on June 9-13, 1988.
 
    The conferences are jointly organized by the
Organizing Committee in Israel (which will also serve as the Conference
Committee for the ALLC one), but the procedures for papers'
submission and selection and for registrations will be kept separate.
A significant discount will be given, however, for a joint registration,
to encourage attendees of each conference to attend the other one also,
thus enhancing fruitful exchanges and communications between
researchers of closely related interests.
 
    Special registration rates will also apply to speakers,
students, and members of sponsoring institutions.
 
    The conferences are sponsored and supported by a number of academic
and professional societies and organizations that will be listed in
future mailings.
 
    A ``Call for Papers'' for the ALLC conference is enclosed;
a ``Call for Papers'' for the AIBI one is being mailed separately.
The coordination between the two programs will be assured
by a special panel consisting of Y. Choueka and R.-F. Poswick.
 
    Both conferences will consist of invited lectures,
contributed papers, panels, product-review sessions, poster displays,
exhibits and demonstrations.  Standard hardware and communications
equipment for on-line demonstrations and large-screen displays will be
available on site. Every effort will be made to meet special
hardware needs if a detailed request is sent well in advance
to the Organizing Committee.
 
    Selected papers from the two conferences will be
published in two separate Proceedings volumes.
 
    The conferences will be accompanied by an exhibition
of hardware, software, books and other products and services
relevant, in general, to the computing-in-the-humanities domain.
 
    The timing of the conferences was specially chosen
so as to coincide (hopefully...) with some of the most glorious
sunny days that Jerusalem can offer, and to assure availability
(and lower fares...) of air tickets and hotel rooms, while
avoiding the rush summer season when tourists usually crowd
the city.
 
    A rich and interesting series of cultural, social and
tourist events for the registrants and their parties
will accompany the conferences. A few Mediterranean beaches,
beautiful in so many ways, are also about one hour of driving from
Jerusalem; far enough so as not to distract the conscientious
wisdom seeker, but close enough for an occasional refreshing jump
to the sun-and-sea worshipper...
 
    The fascinating appeal and haunting beauty of Jerusalem, with
its multi-cultural environments and institutions, its intriguing
history, and its unique human and  architectural landscapes,
coupled with the anticipated characteristic ambiance  usually
associated with scientific activities and  the gathering of scholars
and researchers from all over the world, will certainly turn these
meetings into an exciting professional and cultural event.
 
    So, mark these dates on your calendar, and plan
early to join us in June 1988 in Jerusalem. Don't miss
this excellent opportunity for an enriching scientific and
human experience.
 
    In order to receive future mailings about the conferences,
and to help us better plan them, please return the enclosed
Notification Form, duly filled out, as soon as possible.
 
For further information on the conferences and their programs,
and for suggestions for panels, tutorials, etc., please write
to the Organizing Committee at the address given in the enclosed
form.
================================================================
 
           ALLC--AIBI Joint Conferences
           5-13 June 1988, Jerusalem
 
    Organizing Committee:
 
   Yaacov Choueka, Chairman    Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan
                               (visiting
                               Bell Communications Research, Morristown)
   Hillel Weiss, Coordinator   Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan
   Daniel Boyarin              Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan
   Itamar Even-Zohar           Tel-Aviv University, Tel-Aviv
   Ariel Frank                 Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan
   Reuven Mirkin               Academy of Hebrew Language, Jerusalem
   Uzzi Ornan                  The Hebrew University, Jerusalem
   Yehuda Radday               Technion, Haifa
 
        Address:
    Department of Mathematics and  Computer Science
    Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, 52100
 
    electronic mail: R70016%BARILAN.BITNET
             choueka@bimacs.bitnet
 
 =================================================================
 
           Notification Form
 
 Mail to:
 Organizing Committee
 ALLC--AIBI Joint Conferences
 Deprtment of Mathematics and Computer Science
 Bar-Ilan University
 Ramat-Gan, Israel, 52100
 
 Title_______Name_________________________________________________
 Affiliation______________________________________________________
 Address__________________________________________________________
 
 Tel._______________
 e-mail address___________________
 
 __  Please send me more information when available
 __  Please send me the Call for Papers of the AIBI conference
 __  I plan to attend   __ ALLC  Conf. __ AIBI Conf.  __ Both Conf.
 
 __  I plan to submit a paper to  __ ALLC    __ AIBI
     Tentative Title:
     _______________________________________________________________
 
__   I propose the following panel to the __ALLC  __AIBI conference:
     _______________________________________________________________
 
 
===================================================================
=====================================================================
    Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing
              Fifteenth Annual Conference
               5-9 June 1988,  Jerusalem
 
            Literary and Linguistic Computing-1988
 
    The Fifteenth Annual Conference of ALLC will be held on
5-9 June 1988 in Jerusalem. As has been traditional with ALLC meetings,
the full spectrum of literary and linguistic computing in general
is expected to be covered at the conference. Specific topics
which are currently under vigorous research, such as large
textual databases and corpora and linguistic computing in
multi-lingual environments, are naturally expected to
receive special attention.
 
    Papers are invited on substantial unpublished research
on the main themes of the conference and similar related areas
such as:
    -computational morphology, syntax and semantics
    -computational lexicography and lexicology
    -mechanized dictionaries, lexicons and grammars
    -lemmatization and parsing
    -ambiguity and its mechanical resolution
    -stylistic analysis and authorship studies
    -statistical linguistics and metrics
    -research tools: corpora, concordances, indexes and thesauri
    -full-text systems
    -natural language understanding
    -text processing and retrieval
 
    Papers that present specific theoretical models coupled with new
experimental results are particularly welcome, but contributions
dealing with critical evaluations, general reviews and appraisal of
theoretical models, software packages and specialized hardware
will be also considered. General descriptions of on-going long-range
projects are acceptable only if they contain substantial new
and unpublished information.
 
    Authors should send 6 copies of a one-page abstract and
a cover sheet in the format, and to the address, given below.
Abstracts should clearly point to the originality and importance
of the contribution and its relevance to the conference, and should
clarify the operational status of described projects;
vague or unsubstantiated claims and plans for the future will
be given little weight.
 
    Priority in evaluation and consideration
will be given to abstracts that are accompanied by an Extended
Abstract of 4-6 pages (6 copies). Although not formally required,
authors are urged to include these extended abstracts, so as to help
making the reviewing process more reliable and balanced.
 
    Papers must be received by December 15, 1987.
Authors will be notified for acceptance by February 29, 1988.
Based on the contribution's contents and on the feedback
from the conference, papers will be then selected for
inclusion in the Proceedings volume to be published by
Slatkine (Geneve). The happy selected authors will be notified
by the end of June 1988, and a camera-ready version of the full-length
papers must be received by August 15, 1988. Opportunity will be thus
given to the authors to include in the final version any refinements
or clarifications called for by the oral presentation and its feedback.
 
    More details on local arrangements and accomodations,
registration fees and forms, etc., will be given in the second
call for papers to be mailed during winter 1987. If you would
like to receive future mailings, and certainly if you plan to
submit a paper or just to attend the conference, please
mail the enclosed notification note immediately.
 
 
Format for submissions:
 
Cover Sheet:
------------
ABSTRACT SUBMITTED TO ALLC 1988
Title
Author
Affiliation
Complete address,including tel. and e-mail address
Subject identification (e.g. statistical linguistics, morphological
                disambiguation, etc.)
 
 
Abstract
--------
Title
Author
ABSTRACT
the text of the abstract, one page of about 30 single-spaced lines
(in elite, pica or roman type, 10-12 points).
 
Extended Abstract:
------------------
Title
Author
EXTENDED ABSTRACT
text, 4-6 pages with the same format as the abstract.
 
Address: Send all material to:
Yaacov Choueka
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, 52100.
 
=======================================================================
 
 
      International Advisory Board
 
Paul Bratley        Universite de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec
Jacqueline Hamesse  Universite Catholique, Louvain-La-Neuve
R.-F. Poswick       Bible et Informatique, Maredsous
Klaus M. Schmidt    Bowling Green State University, Ohio
Don Walker          Bell Communications Research, Morristown, New Jersey
 
                    -----------------------
 
        Important deadlines
 
         December 15, 1987  paper submission
         February 29, 1988  author notification
         April 5,     1988  end of early registration
         August 15,   1988  camera-ready version of
                            full papers for the Proceedings
 
                  ------------------------------
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Date:         9 July 1987, 16:43:34 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      On the teaching of Prolog
 
The following is from Eva Swenson (ESWENSON at UTORONTO):
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
I have been observing the exchange of views regarding the teaching of
PROLOG.  I think that providing undergraduates with problem-solving
tools is good.  Pick your favorite tool(s).  It does not matter.
However, I think that the more basic task is to teach undergraduates, and
people in general, how to recognize problems, identify and characterize
them, understand their nature.  And then to determine which tool may be
appropriate for the problem.
 
In my experience, I find that undergraduates (and some instructors) have
no patience for this.  The tendency is to get to the tool (or toy) as
quickly as possible and to try to use it to solve ALL problems.
 
As the saying goes:  when one has learned how to use a hammer, everything
looks like a nail.
 
This is why I would caution one from trying to learn about relational
databases by starting with SQL.  Like learning what a nail is about by
studying how to use a hammer.
 
Eva Swenson.
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Date:         10 July 1987, 15:46:26 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      Not me....
 
           A GUIDE TO THE TRANSLATION OF TECHNICAL PUBLICATIONS
 
 
   o  "It is believed that ..."
       (I think.)
 
   o  "It is generally believed that ..."
       (A couple of my friends think so too.)
 
   o  "It has long been know that ..."
       (I didn't bother to look up the original reference.)
 
   o  "While I have not found definite answers to these questions ..."
       (The data made no sense, but I'm publishing them anyway.)
 
   o  "It might be argued that ..."
       (I can answer this objection so well that I shall now raise it.)
 
   o  "Of great theoretical and practical importance ..."
       (Somewhat interesting to me.)
 
   o  "Of extreme purity, ultrapure ..."
       (Composition unknown.)
 
   o  "Qualitatively correct ... correct within an order of magnitude."
       (Wrong.)
 
   o  "Three samples were chosen for detailed study ..."
       (The others didn't make sense.)
 
   o  "Typical results are shown in Fig. 2"
       (The best results are shown in Fig. 2.)
 
   o  "The most reliable values are given by Smith ..."
       (Smith is a friend of mine.)
 
   o  "Subjected to controlled stress during the experiment ..."
       (Accidentally dropped on the floor.)
 
   o  "Handled with extreme care during the experiment ..."
       (Not dropped on the floor.)
 
   o  "A discussion of the remaining data will be forthcoming ..."
       (Some of my results don't make sense.)
 
   o  "A complete understanding clearly requires much more work ..."
       (None of my results make sense.)
 
   o  "I would be remiss not to thank Archibald Thankery for assistance
      with the experimental aspects of this investigation, and Dr. Samuel
      Hirschfeld for helpful comments during the analytical phase ..."
       (Archie did all the work, and then Sam explained it to me.)
__________________________________________________________________________
 
Keebler { hua@cmu-cs-gandalf.arpa }
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Date:         Mon, 13 Jul 87 14:10:36 EDT
Reply-To:     Steve Younker <POSTMSTR@UTORONTO>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Steve Younker <POSTMSTR@UTORONTO>
Subject:      HUMANIST Loops
 
 
I feel today is a good day to send a message out to all subscribers of
UofT's HUMANIST discussion group based on the events of the past week.
 
Any of you who were members of this group a week ago will recall that
one of your colleagues went on holiday.  Before he left he ensured that
any messages that arrived in his 'computer mail box' were answered by
an automatic program that informed the sender that he was away.  To make
a long story short this automatic program got into an electronic discussion
with the HUMANIST program at UTORONTO.  Since all of you are privy to any
electronic conversations that occur with HUMANIST, you all received a ton
of electronic mail.  Since each piece of mail was essentially the same, it
made for some extraordinarily boring reading.  Fortunately, Willard was able
to catch this process before the network wires began to melt under the load.
 
This morning I came in to work and found a complaint in mailbox from the U.K.
about this incident.  The person requested that I ensure that this situation
would not be repeated in the future for it was inconvenient and expensive
to those in the U.K. due to network charges.
 
First of all, I have replied to the individual concerned and I hope I have
dealt with his concerns.  However, I thought that there may be more of you
who were 'silently' annoyed by the incident.  So I felt that a full explanation
is probably in order.  I discussed this with Willard and he agreed.
 
I realize that such an incident can be annoying, but the nature of the beast,
(computers) dictates that these 'bugs' will occur from time to time and
cannot be predicted.  In this case, a user on another computer installed a
piece of software that had, to say the least, a devasting effect when it began
to 'talk' with HUMANIST.  The user involved is not under Willard's control or
mine.  Indeed, the user could have been anywhere in the world.  Willard and I
have attempted to set up HUMANIST in such a manner to be as useful to all as
humanly possible.  Some of you may remember that DARTVAX ran amok in a similar
fashion when the discussion group began.  That situation was also rather
obscure.
 
The point is, computer loops will occur from time to time and some of them
cannot be predicted or prevented.  I ask you all to react in a kindly manner.
Simply smile, laugh, swear a bit maybe, delete the offending files, and carry
on enjoying the benefits of HUMANIST.  Willard and I realize that this is a new
medium for some of you and we will endeavour to provide this service with the
minimum of bother and confusion.
 
To make HUMANIST a useful and an efficient medium, I urge you all to keep
Willard and/or myself informed of your likes and dislikes of the service
provided.  I believe the benefits to the academic world far outweigh the
occasional annoyance of a computer bug.
 
If you wish to express any concerns that may not be of interest to all members
of HUMANIST, please feel free to contact me directly at:
 
   POSTMSTR@UTORONTO
 
Steve Younker, Postmaster - University of Toronto
=================================================
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Date:         20 July 1987, 19:25:27 MST
Reply-To:     ATMKO@ASUACAD
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         ATMKO@ASUACAD
 
OPTIONS: NOACK    LOG    SHORT     NOTEBOOK HUMANIST
 
 
 
 
Date: 20 July 1987, 19:10:25 MST
From: ATMKO    at ASUACAD
To:   HUMANIST at UTORONTO
 
Dear Humanist,
For a while we were snowed under tons of junk mail and now nothing.
Is Humanist alive?  Has Humanist fallen victim to an international
version of core wars?  Did the system operators at CUNY "hit" the
misguided list server with a mega-byte of zeros.  Please, Arizona
is too hot and lonely to be deprived of humanist.
 
 
The following program was downloaded from the Catspaw bulletin
board and requires SNOBOL4+ to run.  It is forwarded to Humanist
in order to make your life more economical and interesting.
* INSIDER.SNO
* Produces an industry insider report,
*   thus saving the cost and nuisance of reading
*   Infoworld, PC Week, Microbytes, John Dvorak, etc.
*
*
 
* Set keywords
-plusops 1
          &trim = 1
          &anchor = 1
          &maxlngth = 32767
 
* Use system clock to seed the random-number generator
 
 
 
 
* Define your arrays
 
* Blueboy is the I B M whatever
 
          blueboy = array('10')
          blueboy[1] = 'official'
          blueboy[2] = 'executive'
          blueboy[3] = 'vice-president'
          blueboy[4] = 'officer'
          blueboy[5] = 'manager'
          blueboy[6] = 'source'
          blueboy[7] = 'consultant'
          blueboy[8] = 'engineer'
          blueboy[9] = 'vice-president'
          blueboy[10] = 'vice-president'
 
* newspeak is verb for his statement
 
          newspeak = array('10')
          newspeak[1] = 'confirmed'
          newspeak[2] = 'denied'
          newspeak[3] = 'refused to confirm or deny'
          newspeak[4] = 'refused to comment on'
          newspeak[5] = 'denied any knowledge of'
          newspeak[6] = 'agreed that there might be some validity to'
          newspeak[7] = 'denied'
          newspeak[8] = 'been uncharacteristically forthright about'
          newspeak[9] = 'taken the Fifth Amendment when asked about'
          newspeak[10] = 'been involuntarily retired after prematurely confirmin
g'
 
* hearsay is his statement
 
          hearsay = array('10')
          hearsay[1] = 'reports'
          hearsay[2] = 'an article in Tass'
          hearsay[3] = 'industry rumors'
          hearsay[4] = 'authoritative gossip'
          hearsay[5] = 'unsubstantiated dispatches'
          hearsay[6] = 'widespread speculation'
          hearsay[7] = 'unofficial reports'
          hearsay[8] = 'high-level rumors'
          hearsay[9] = 'leaks from beta-testers'
          hearsay[10] = 'informed conjectures'
 
* newstuff is the next product
 
          newstuff = array('10')
          newstuff[1] = 'system'
          newstuff[2] = 'architecture'
          newstuff[3] = 'CPU'
          newstuff[4] = 'system bus'
          newstuff[5] = 'token-ring network'
          newstuff[6] = 'local-area network'
          newstuff[7] = 'entry-level product'
          newstuff[8] = 'top-end workstation'
          newstuff[9] = 'video display standard'
          newstuff[10] = 'operating system'
 
* saywhat is an attribute of the new syste,
 
          saywhat = array('10')
          saywhat[1] = 'be totally proprietary'
          saywhat[2] = 'run under Microsoft Windows'
          saywhat[3] = 'be based on the Intel 80486'
          saywhat[4] = 'remain a closely-held secret until the end of the centur
y'
          saywhat[5] = 'be generally compatible with existing systems'
          saywhat[6] = 'use a subset of the OS/360 instruction set'
          saywhat[7] = 'employ scalar interrupts and extensive masked gate array
s'
          saywhat[8] = 'be introduced in the near future'
          saywhat[9] = 'have DB-15 connectors'
          saywhat[10] = 'be produced by robots in Singapore'
 
* bluesite is where they're doing it
 
          bluesite = array('10')
          bluesite[1] = 'a product suitability testing facility'
          bluesite[2] = 'several gamma-test sites'
          bluesite[3] = 'a national refuge for migrating data'
          bluesite[4] = 'IRS offices'
          bluesite[5] = 'proposed MX missile bases'
          bluesite[6] = 'the corporate detention center for dress-code violators
'
          bluesite[7] = 'a detoxification clinic'
          bluesite[8] = 'a number of Fortune 500 companies'
          bluesite[9] = 'a toxic waste dump'
          bluesite[10] = 'a maximum-security prison'
 
* bluecity is more where
          bluecity = array('10')
          bluecity[1] = ' on Three Mile Island'
          bluecity[2] = ' in Armonk, N.Y.'
          bluecity[3] = ' just above Boulder, Colo.'
          bluecity[4] = ' in midtown Manhattan'
          bluecity[5] = ' in beautiful downtown Burbank'
          bluecity[6] = ' near Fargo, N.D.'
          bluecity[7] = ' in the suburbs of Metetse, Wyo.'
          bluecity[8] = ' in the Silicon Valley'
          bluecity[9] = " between Cassini's Division and the Roche Limit"
          bluecity[10] = ', formerly in Boca Raton until the company learned '
+ 'that "Boca Raton" means "Rat Mouth" in Spanish'
 
          morestuff = array('5')
          morestuff[1] = 'further explanation'
          morestuff[2] = 'detailed announcement'
          morestuff[3] = 'specific details'
          morestuff[4] = 'public statement'
          morestuff[5] = 'voluntary confession'
 
          sayblue = array('7')
          sayblue[1] = 'would be premature at this point in time'
          sayblue[2] = 'would cause smaller companies to file for Chapter 11,'
+ ' which would just get us in trouble again with the Antitrust Division'
+ ' of the Justice Department'
          sayblue[3] = 'would cost me my pension'
          sayblue[4] = 'might give clone-makers information they should'
+ ' not have access to'
          sayblue[5] = 'could get me transferred to Anchorage'
          sayblue[6] = 'will have to come from the M*A*S*H cast'
          sayblue[7] = 'must come from a more authoritative source'
 
          bytehead = array('8')
          bytehead[1] = 'observers'
          bytehead[2] = 'analysts'
          bytehead[3] = 'watchers'
          bytehead[4] = 'spies'
          bytehead[5] = 'followers'
          bytehead[6] = 'observers'
          bytehead[7] = 'analysts'
          bytehead[8] = 'observers'
 
          goodsay = array('10')
          goodsay[1] = 'the greatest thing since sliced bread'
          goodsay[2] = 'something the industry has long needed'
          goodsay[3] = 'an important and significant advancement'
          goodsay[4] = 'one of the finest achievements of western civilization'
          goodsay[5] = 'a seminal step, pregnant with fertile possibilities'
          goodsay[6] = 'the best improvement since they quit using punch cards'
          goodsay[7] = 'the reason why Big Blue continues to lead the way'
          goodsay[8] = 'a colossal advancement in personal-computing power'
          goodsay[9] = 'another reason why no one ever got fired for buying IBM'
          goodsay[10] = 'the first manifestation of the next generation of perso
nal computers'
 
          goodmore = array('10')
          goodmore[1] = 'represents no major breakthrough'
          goodmore[2] = 'contains no surprises'
          goodmore[3] = 'employs an unusual huge interface known as the capybara
'
          goodmore[4] = 'requires an an EE to configure'
          goodmore[5] = 'uses components yet to be invented'
          goodmore[6] = 'will work only with IBM peripherals'
          goodmore[7] = 'requires a three-phase 37-hz 440-volt power supply'
          goodmore[8] = 'blows up if connected to anything from a different manu
facturer'
          goodmore[9] = 'is compatible with Sidekick'
          goodmore[10] = 'crashes at the slightest provocation'
 
          butmore = array('9')
          butmore[1] = 'set a standard'
          butmore[2] = 'be popular with MIS professionals'
          butmore[3] = 'be what Lotus is to spreadsheets'
          butmore[4] = 'move us into the next generation'
          butmore[5] = 'give the other companies something to try to emulate'
          butmore[6] = 'give the clone-makers fits for at least two months'
          butmore[7] = 'carry on the tradition of reliability and service'
          butmore[8] = "give Radar O'Reilly something besides a teddy bear to sl
eep with"
          butmore[9] = 'require substantial additional purchases by users,'
+ ' thus making IBM stock a good buy'
 
          badsay = array('10')
          badsay[1] = 'William Gates, president of MicroSoft,'
          badsay[2] = 'Phillipe Kahn of Borland International'
          badsay[3] = 'Mitch Kaypor, formerly of Lotus Development Corp.,'
          badsay[4] = 'Steve Jobs, a co-founder of Apple,'
          badsay[5] = 'Gary Kildall, developer of CP/M,'
          badsay[6] = 'Adam Osborne at Paperback Software'
          badsay[7] = 'Bob Wallace, president of QuickSoft,'
          badsay[8] = 'Esther Dyson, editor of Release 1.0,'
          badsay[9] = 'Charles Babbage, conceptual founder of computing,'
          badsay[10] = 'Lee Felsenstein, president of Golemics and designer of t
he Osborne I,'
 
          notgood = array('10')
          notgood[1] = 'a disaster waiting to happen'
          notgood[2] = 'a solution in search of a problem'
          notgood[3] = 'another chiclet-key PC Jr.'
          notgood[4] = "Big Blue's biggest blunder since the RISC machine"
          notgood[5] = 'as big a step backwards as returning to paper tape stora
ge'
          notgood[6] = 'a titanic company finally hitting an iceberg'
          notgood[7] = "the kind of thing you'd expect from some hackers"
+ " in a garage, not from the world's biggest computer company"
          notgood[8] = 'something that only defense contractors could afford'
          notgood[9] = 'too much, too soon'
          notgood[10] = 'the DP equivalent of herpes'
 
          addbad = array('10')
          addbad[1] = 'Only IBM would try getting away with this'
          addbad[2] = 'It will go over like a pregnant pole-vaulter'
          addbad[3] = 'In two years, it will be as popular as ferrite core memor
y'
          addbad[4] = 'You can bet nobody will try to clone this one'
          addbad[5] = 'There are people starving on this planet, '
+ "and yet we have expensive products like this.  That's disgusting"
          addbad[6] = "They must be relying on the old saying "
+ "that there's one born every minute"
          addbad[7] = "I've heard it runs slower than a dBASE sort"
          addbad[8] = 'Maybe they developed it for the Strategic Defense'
+ " Initiative.  That's the only way it makes sense"
          addbad[9] = "Perhaps it's only a stopgap until OS/2 is debugged"
          addbad[10] = 'Only Big Blue would dare try anything like this'
 
          catname = array('2')
          catname[1] = 'Mark Emmer, publisher'
          catname[2] = 'Ed Quillen, editor'
 
          goodadj = array('10')
          goodadj[1] = 'influential'
          goodadj[2] = 'respected'
          goodadj[3] = 'esteemed'
          goodadj[4] = 'highly regarded'
          goodadj[5] = 'popular'
          goodadj[6] = 'noted'
          goodadj[7] = "insiders'"
          goodadj[8] = 'revered'
          goodadj[9] = 'powerful'
          goodadj[10] = 'innovative'
 
          badwarn = array('7')
          badwarn[1] = "All these reports have about as much credibility "
+ "as a White House spokesman"
          badwarn[2] = "If these statements could be transformed into "
+ "matter, we could go into the fertilizer business"
          badwarn[3] = "If you believe any of this, come and see me.  "
+ "I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you"
          badwarn[4] = "Such speculation just proves the truth of the "
+ "old saying, 'Garbage in, Garbage out'"
          badwarn[5] = "This baseless gossip ought to contain a "
+ "self-referential disclaimer"
          badwarn[6] = "Utter fabrications like this ought to be an "
+ "embarrassment to everyone involved.  Unfortunately, some people "
+ "persist in circulating them"
          badwarn[7] = "The circulation of such groundless rumors "
+ "represents as good a reason as any for joining Ed Meese "
+ "in his campaign to repeal the First Amendment"
 
* Define formatting functions
 
          define('justify(s)f,g,h,t')             :(justify_end)
justify   s len(79) . f =                         :f(justify_2)
          g = reverse(f)
          g break(' -') . h =
          t = t reverse(g) char(13) char(10)
          s = reverse(h) s                        :(justify)
justify_2 justify = t s                           :(return)
justify_end
 
 
 
*
*          output(.out,10,,'d:insider.sav')
*          x = save(10)                  :f(bad_file)
*          ident(x)                      :s(end)
* Save it here
 
 
 
 
* Seed the random generator
 
          date() len(8) . today len(4) len(2) . s1 len(1) len(2) . s2
+                len(1) len(2) . s3
          date len(2) . s4 len(1) len(2) . s5
          seed = chop((s1 s2 s3) / 2) + (s4 s5)
 
* Define random function
 
*----------------------------------------------- RANDOM
          define('random(n)')
          ran_var  =  seed			:(random_end)
random
	         ran_var = remdr(ran_var * 4676., 414971.)
	         random  = ran_var / 414971.
          random  = ne(n,0) convert(random * n,'integer') + 1
						                                            :(return)
random_end
*----------------------------------------------------------------
 
getvar
          boyblue = blueboy[random(10)]
          speaknew = newspeak[random(10)]
          sayhear = hearsay[random(10)]
          stuffnew = newstuff[random(10)]
          whatsay = saywhat[random(10)]
          siteblue = bluesite[random(10)]
          cityblue = bluecity[random(10)]
          stuffmore = morestuff[random(5)]
          bluesay = sayblue[random(7)]
          headbyte = bytehead[random(8)]
          saygood = goodsay[random(10)]
          moregood = goodmore[random(10)]
          morebut = butmore[random(9)]
          saybad = badsay[random(10)]
          goodnot = notgood[random(10)]
          badadd = addbad[random(10)]
          namecat = catname[random(2)]
          adjgood = goodadj[random(10)]
          warnbad = badwarn[random(7)]
 
          graf1 = '     An IBM ' boyblue ' has ' speaknew ' ' sayhear
+ " that the company's next personal-computer " stuffnew
+ ' would ' whatsay '.  The ' boyblue ', who asked that his name '
+ 'not be used, did say that the ' stuffnew ' was under development at '
+ siteblue cityblue ', but that any ' stuffmore ' "' bluesay '."'
 
          graf2 = '     Industry ' headbyte "' reactions were generally "
+ 'favorable, with many calling the ' stuffnew ' "' saygood '."  '
+ 'Technically, the new product "' moregood '," one said, "but it will '
+ morebut '."'
 
          graf3 = '     However, there were some dissenters.  '
+ saybad ' said it represented "' goodnot '," adding that "'
+ badadd '."'
 
          graf4 = '     ' namecat ' of the ' adjgood ' newsletter, '
+ "A SNOBOL's Chance, cautioned that " '"' warnbad '."'
 
 
          top = dupl(' ',15) "SPECIAL CATSPAW INSIDERS' REPORT FOR " today
 
          output(.output,6,5000)
          output = top
          output = justify(graf1)
          output = justify(graf2)
          output = justify(graf3)
          output = justify(graf4)
 
end
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Date:         22 July 1987, 16:48:32 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
 
 
                           Conference on
 
            TEACHING COMPUTERS AND THE HUMANITIES COURSES
 
                            Sponsored by
 
           The Association for Computers and the Humanities
 
 
 
                           JUNE 9-11, 1988
 
                           OBERLIN COLLEGE
 
                            OBERLIN, OHIO
 
 
 
 
                    C A L L   F O R   P A P E R S
 
 
The Association for Computers and the Humanities Conference on Teaching
Computers and the Humanities Courses is intended for faculty who are offering
or developing courses meant to teach humanities students--in literature,
language, history, philosophy, art, music--about computer use within their
disciplines. The conference will NOT address the teaching of humanities
subjects via the computer (computer assisted instruction, CAI). Its focus
is courses designed to teach humanists how computers are used,
and may be used in the future, as a tool within their disciplines.
 
The conference is also centrally concerned with
teaching computing skills to humanities students and faculty. Among the
questions to be addressed are: What should be included in such courses? How
should they be taught? What level and mix of students should take the course?
Should a higher-level programming language be taught? If so, which language is
most suitable? Should computing skills be taught before or after the student is
familiar with applications of computers within his or her field? Which
applictions software should be taught? In how much detail?
 
Papers and proposals for panels on these questions and directly related
questions are invited for presentation at the conference. While summaries of
existing courses will not be excluded from the conference, we are looking in
particular for substantive discussion of the issues surrounding the teaching of
courses on computers and the humanities.
 
Please submit five copies of abstracts and panel proposals before 30 November
1987. Abstracts for both papers and panels should be approximately 1000 words
long. Panel proposals should include a tentative list of participants. The
Program Committee will notify authors regarding acceptance by 31 January 1988.
Full papers will be due by 15 May 1988.
 
Selected papers from the conference will be published in a proceedings volume.
 
Please send all abstracts and inquiries to:
 
         Professor Robert S. Tannenbaum, Chairman, Program Committee
         ACH Conference on Teaching Computers and the Humanities Courses
         Department of Computer Science
         Hunter College CUNY
         695 Park Avenue
         New York, N.Y. 10021
 
Inquiries, abstracts, and proposals may also be sent via electronic mail to
RSTHC@CUNYVM (Bitnet).
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Date:         22 July 1987, 16:59:27 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      An invitation from Nancy Ide
 
 
Date: 21 JUL 87 12:14-EST
From: IDE@VASSAR
To: humanist @ utoronto
Cc: IDE@VASSAR.BITNET
Subject: PROGRAMMING FOR HUMANISTS/ARTS STUDENTS
 
I have sent around a copy of the call-for-papers for a conference
which the Association for Computers and the Humanities will sponsor
next summer on Teaching Computers and the Humanities Courses.  This
conferecen grows out of a workshop on the topic held at Vassar
College last summer.
 
I am interested in organizing a panel or preferably a whole session
on the issue of the need and/or value of teaching programming to humanities
and arts students.  As some of you may know I have long argued that
humanities students who intend to use computers in their work should learn
to program, for a variety of reasons, many of which have been reiterated
in discussions among this group recently.  Therefore I am asking those
of you who hold a view on this topic to let me know if you would be
interested in partcipating in the session at the Oberlin conference.
I want to hear from those who favor programmiong as well as from those who do
not.
 
Contact me as IDE@VASSAR (Bitnet) if you are interested in the session or
in the conference itself.
 
Nancy Ide
ide@vassar
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 87  17:19 EDT
Reply-To:     JMBHC@CUNYVM
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         JMBHC@CUNYVM
Subject:      Vapographies
In-Reply-To:  HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO> -- 7 July 1987,
              10:12:25 EDT
 
Didn't receive vaporgraphies here.  By the way, is it too late to add mine?
Joanne Badagliacco
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Date:         22 July 1987, 19:30:24 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
 
Copies of HUMANIST BIOGRAFY or of the identical but divided HUMBIOS 1,
2, and 3 should have reached all of you by now. For technically
interesting reasons we now seem to understand, we had great trouble
getting the biographies to HUMANISTs in the UK but have finally
succeeded. Anyone who has not received a copy should write to me
directly (not through HUMANIST, please) as soon as is convenient. Either
an "anthropomorphic peripheral interface error" or some electronic
slip-up could be responsible.
I will likely be sending out the first supplement to the biographies in
late August. I think it's important for as many of us to be represented
to each other in this way as possible; no one, no matter how lowly or
exalted in knowledge or in status should feel excluded. Building a
professional identity will be much more intelligently and effectively
done if your contribution is included.
Thanks for your help and patience.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 87 00:10 EDT
Reply-To:     GUEST4@YUSOL
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         GUEST4@YUSOL
Subject:      Broken record?
 
Just read the call for papers for the Oberlin meeting on HUMANIST.
 
Can hardly believe that the same phraseology, the same issues, are being
put forward here as for the Vassar conference last summer.
 
Has ASTHC fallen into an endless loop?  Is humanistic computing condemned to
be the only kind that is currently advancing in a geological timewarp, while
others rush merrily past in all sorts of interesting directions?
 
Or am I missing some important byproduct of such slowly grinding millstones?
If so, could someone please enlighten me?  Am particularly curious about why
there is so little interest in teaching HUMANITIES courses about what
COMPUTERS are and how they impact on human culture and human nature.  I would
have thought that was at least as interesting to humanists as the pros and
cons of Basic versus Pascal for use in the "discipline".  Why do I keep
thinking of Humanities not as a discipline, but as the proper study of
mankind...???
 
 
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 87 00:13 EDT
Reply-To:     GUEST4@YUSOL
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         GUEST4@YUSOL
Subject:      A query re Oberlin COnference of ASTHC,
              from a Fox among the Hedgehogs??
 
Just read the call for papers for the Oberlin meeting on HUMANIST.
 
Can hardly believe that the same phraseology, the same issues, are being
put forward here as for the Vassar conference last summer.
 
Has ASTHC fallen into an endless loop?  Is humanistic computing condemned to
be the only kind that is currently advancing in a geological timewarp, while
others rush merrily past in all sorts of interesting directions?
 
Or am I missing some important byproduct of such slowly grinding millstones?
If so, could someone please enlighten me?  Am particularly curious about why
there is so little interest in teaching HUMANITIES courses about what
COMPUTERS are and how they impact on human culture and human nature.  I would
have thought that was at least as interesting to humanists as the pros and
cons of Basic versus Pascal for use in the "discipline".  Why do I keep
thinking of Humanities not as a discipline, but as the proper study of
mankind...???
 
 
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Date:         23 July 1987, 20:07:26 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      Joel Goldfield on the Oberlin Conference
 
>Date: Thu, 23 Jul 87 10:32:21 edt
>From: jdg%psc90.UUCP@DARTMOUTH.EDU (Dr. Joel Goldfield)
>Message-Id: <8707231432.AA03398@psc90.UUCP>
>To: ihnp4!princeton!seismo!HUMANIST@utoronto
>
>Dear Colleagues,
>    I think our "guest" writer may have a point about an "endless loop."
>This is not a rhetorical statement, however.  We might ask our sponsoring
>colleagues to define the goals of the Oberlin conference more specifically.
>Might this be more a framework for process, for discussion, than for some
>specific conclusions.  Do the participants from last year's conference at
>Vassar, which I also attended, feel that we no longer need mass discussions
>on the topics Nancy Ide is suggesting?
>    Let's try to observe Willard's suggestion that identification of
>the writer appear in the body of each HUMANIST message.  Who is "Guest4"?
>
>                Regards,
>                Joel D. Goldfield
>                Plymouth State College (NH, USA)
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 87 00:52 EDT
Reply-To:     GUEST4@YUSOL
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         GUEST4@YUSOL
Subject:      ID
 
I appreciate Goldfield's reply, and apologize for being too bashful in my
maiden entry to insert more precise identification.
 
Am eager to stand corrected, but my impression is that the topics outlined
for Oberlin are almost WORD for WORD the same as those targeted at Vassar.
The question is not whether discussion is no longer needed, but whether
there is anything else to be discussed -- or so it seems to
 
                Sterling Beckwith
                York University (ON, CDN)
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Date:         24-JUL-1987 16:10:24
Reply-To:     SRRJ1%UK.AC.YORK.VAXB@AC.UK
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         SRRJ1%UK.AC.YORK.VAXB@AC.UK
 
	COMPUTING FOR THE HUMANITIES?
 
	Perhaps HUMANISTS could help us as we develop a campaign for the
provision of special resources for computing in the humanities here in
York [U.K] - currently there are none. We are now starting to devise
ways of introducing data-processing techniques to History students and
staff and in making our case to the "authorities" it would be useful
to draw on your collective experience.
 
	We have an excellent computing service, but the staff are already
over-worked and are also a little nervous about us because they are
all from science backgrounds. We get on well but do we always understand
each others needs? What we would like to knowis - outside the special
schemes funded by the UGC (in Britain) and various computer companies -
how have others found it possible to make a case for specialist
computing advice in the humanities, or should we in any case simply
be looking for more specialists in specific applications (database
design, programing, text-processing etc) regardless of discipline?
 
	In putting together our case we're trying to collect as much
information as possible about what goes on elsewhere. If you've time
we'd find it very helpful to know
 
1] What provision is made for computing in the humanities in your
institution?
 
2] How do you justify the provision of such specialist services
to the humanities?
 
3]If you were starting from scratch again, what are the mistakes
you'd most like to avoid repeating?
 
Thanks for your time....we look forward to hearing from you!
 
Sarah Rees Joneset al.
History Department,
Vanbrugh College,
University of York,  U.K.
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Date:         Fri, 24-JUL-1987 11:40 EST
Reply-To:     IDE@VASSAR
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         IDE@VASSAR
Subject:      Oberlin conference
 
  The point is well taken that some of the issues proposed for discussion
at the Oberlin conference are the same as those that were discussed at
Vassar last year.  For this reason I made slight revisions in the call
which I hope broaden the scope somewhat.
  However, my impression at the Vassar conference was that more questions
were raised than answered.  It may be true that the programming issue has
been beaten to a pulp (although a recent re-hashing of that issue on HUMANIST
led me to believe that a lot of people had not yet heard it or felt it
resolved ssatisfactorily).  However, we have not answered such questions as:
what exactly is it that we think that humanities students need to learn
about computers?  Skills only? or more about methodology and approach,
as well as conceptual material concerning computers and computing?  (The
programming issue speaks to this larger concern, since most people who want to
teach programming want to do so in order to provide a solid understanding
of computers and problem solving techniques than specific programming skills.
So a better question vis a vis programming is: what do we intend to teach
when we teach programming?  and how is this best accomplished?) Can we
expect students to understand how computers and computing fit into
research in the humanities, given a course on COMPUTING intended for
humanities students (as opposed to a course on COMPUTERS AND THE HUMANITIES,
which would focus on both more squarely)?  Or is it necessary for us to
teach the methodology that computers enable us to implement?  More broadly,
there were two kinds of courses described at the Vassar workshop: skills-
oriented courses and courses which were more concerned with methodology
and developing problem solving skills in general by using computer
applications to show how these things are implemented.  Which is better?
Is one better than the other for certain contexts?
  As for implementation, I saw almost no answers to these questions:
do we need separate C&H courses or can we integrate materials into
existing humanities courses?  If not, why not?  Why don't existing
computer science courses serve the needs of humanities students for
some aspects of C&H?  Do we think all humanities students need some exposure
to computer use for humanities research or should we let our students
be self-selected?  Can whatever we decide must be taught be done in a single
c&H course?  In one or more humanities courses?  In some mix of special
C&H courses, humanities courses with a computing component, and/or computer
science courses?  Other concerns: what are the realities of establishing
a C&H course or even integrating computing materials into existing humanities
courses with regard to adminstrative red tape?  Do we need specialized
faculty?  What level of hardware support is required to effectively teach
such a course?  Should labs be defintitely included and if so, what shape
should they take (specific tasks to be completed within the lab or just
question and answer, etc.)? Does a minor, joint major, and/or double major
in computers and the humanities make sense and if so, what is the focus
and intent of such a program?
  I shouldn't say I saw not answers to these questions at Vassar, since
some of these topics were discussed quite thoroughly; instead, I saw no
resolution of the questions.
  I do think the point about the programming issue is well taken, and so
I would like to redefine the topic I propose for a panel or session at
Oberlin.  I would like to address the following question: Assuming a
course or courses in C&H at the undergraduate level, what is it that we
feel studnets who have taken such courses should know when they complete
the course?
  If anyone has any ideas about other issues that should be raised at
the Oberlin conference, PLEASE let me know.  We are open to suggestions
(hopefully the call was not worded to seem to disallow consideration of
questions other than those we listed) and would in fact welcome them.
Or, do we know all we need to know about C&H courses, therefore making
such a conference irrelevant?
 
                                            Nancy Ide
                                            ide@vassar
 
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Date:         26 July 1987, 20:25:30 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
Subject:      A Summary of Things Said So Far
 
I have been asked to prepare for the Newsletter of the ACH a concise
summary of the discussions on HUMANIST since it began in May. Looking
over my file of contributions, I find that more has happened than I
would have guessed, but because some of the interesting stuff may have
been sent only to individuals, I need help in making this summary. Would
anyone with interesting private contributions send them to me right
away?
Because HUMANIST is necessarily like the "longish conversation"
described by the poet David Jones ("where one thing leads to another;
but should a third party hear fragments of it, he might not know how the
talk had passed from the cultivation of cabbages to Melchizedek, king of
Salem"), summaries of this kind seem important for us HUMANISTs as well
as for others. One day we may have a expense-free conferencing system
available world-wide. Until then, the occasional summary seems to me a
particularly necessary thing.
I would appreciate receiving anyone's thoughts or suggestions on this matter.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 87 00:22 EDT
Reply-To:     GUEST4@YUSOL
Sender:       HUMANIST Discussion <HUMANIST@UTORONTO>
From:         GUEST4@YUSOL
Subject:      Oberlin Conference agenda and the Call for Answers
 
Obviously my perception of humanism is seriously defective.  I actually
ENJOY conferences where there are more questions raised than definitive
answers provided.  (Perhaps this is just a throwback to the pre_Rabenite
days of the not-yet-computerized humanities -- if so, please forgive it.)
Particularly when the questions are about teaching and learning, which
seems to (or used tom when Mary McCarthy was in school) involve large amounts
of actual TRIAL and ERROR by all concerned.
 
THe announcement I read was about as open to other dimensions and other
questions than those promulgated at Vassar as the National Security Council
was to supplying the Sandinistas with humanitarian aid. Not knowing anything
about how ACH runs its affairs, I can hardly comment further, but will
eagerly await any further crosstalk on HUMANIST.
 
        Sterling Beckwith, York University
 
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 87 11:14:46 CDT
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From:         Michael Sperberg-McQueen <U18189@UICVM>
Subject:      Oberlin Conference rhubarb
 
The recent discussion prompted by Sterling Beckwith of York Univ.
raises some interesting questions beyond the obvious ones (who is
ASTHC?  who on earth has ever suggested teaching Basic to humanists,
and can we get them some professional help before they do further harm
to themselves or others?  what is the difference between a study and a
discipline, and is a study any good to anyone if undisciplined?).
 
I confess to some confusion on two grounds:  why, to people who spend
their professional lives re-examining texts and issues that have
already occupied decades or centuries of attention, often by the
brightest minds of their times, should it seem regrettable, or
a sign of being caught in a "geological timewarp", or even odd, to be
discussing, this summer, questions that occupied the attention of some
people last summer?  Apart from pedagogical issues (and let's thank God
for humanists who want to address and discuss pedagogical issues
directly and explicitly!) the Vassar and Oberlin conferences are,
after all, raising fairly substantial questions of what it is we want
our students to learn, the nature of the world into which we are
sending them, and the relationship both of technology and (more
fundamentally) the algorithmic approach to problem-solving.  It does
not surprise me, and it astonishes me that it should surprise anyone,
to see these issues still the topic of conferences and discussions.
They will necessarily continue to be so until there is either some more
visible consensus, or until everyone's mind is made up and we agree to
disagree, or until the nature of the problem is radically changed by
developments in our secondary schools.  I don't expect to see any of
these events in the next few years.
 
True, at Vassar there did seem to be some common assumptions and
approaches beneath the wide surface divergences, and I tried at the end
of the conference to make those common assumptions explicit.  But apart
from the fact that not everyone was convinced, those common assumptions
remain only the outline of a potential consensus, not the content of an
actual consensus, until we are all aware of our shared assumptions.
 
In the meantime, there remains a lot of room for discussion of the
issues named in the Oberlin prospectus, including choice of programming
language, or other command medium.  Proponents of utility naturally
suggest Snobol or occasionally Prolog as the language of choice;
others, who argue that the point of teaching programming is to show the
student more about how the machine itself works, suggest that a more
cleanly procedural language like Pascal should be used.  (And we know
from this list that some have even tried to bridge the two language
classes by teaching Icon, with, however, disappointing results.)  It is
significant, I think, that the former are often interested *primarily*
in enabling students to write programs for their own use, often
teaching advanced undergraduate or graduate students, and take routine
scholarly inquiry as their context, while the latter tend to emphasize
the logical structure of computer programming, teach undergraduates,
and focus *primarily* on understanding the machine as an end in itself
or to broaden horizons, rather than as a tool to help get quick and
dirty solutions.  I cannot think that this debate is unrelated to
"teaching HUMANITIES courses about what COMPUTERS are and how they
impact on human culture and human nature."
 
As for courses that explicitly address the social and cultural
impact of computing -- I agree they are important, but I don't
see any great shortage of them.  Nor do I see -- and this is
my second point of confusion -- how we expect to conduct useful
discussions of computers, what they are, and how they may affect
human nature and culture, without arranging to give at least some
of our students some concrete knowledge of what happens in the
CPU.  Many social issues (privacy, organizational efficiency, and
so on) may well be addressable without any programming knowledge.
I daresay the sociologists are addressing them; I don't see that
my training in literature calls me to try to address them, too.
And the interesting questions that do seem to belong in the
humanists' bailiwick (computers-and-human-creativity, computers-
and-human-dignity, can-computers-ever-think, ...) seem to me to
require some knowledge both of computing and of the humanities.
 
To take a simple example:  Weizenbaum's 'Eliza' program and its
'Doctor' script can lead to far-ranging discussion of profound
social and personal issues.  But from the relevant chapter in
Weizenbaum's book we can see how catastrophically the discussion can
go awry when no one can understand a word the others are saying.
Weizenbaum does not seem to have understood what the psychoanalysts
were talking about, and they clearly were incapable of following his
argument -- largely, I think, owing to their technical naivete.
They could not see how the program worked, and he could not show them.
 
Any course on the impact of computers on society risks exactly the
same difficulties if the students don't have any pragmatic computing
skills.
 
--- Since I began this note, there have been a number of further
exchanges on this issue, and I have acquired a third point of confusion:
why, if one prefers conferences at which more questions are raised
than answered, should one complain in the first place that the same
issues are going to occupy the time of another conference, worry about
"broken records", and imply that no one else in computing spends any
time worrying about the same issues from one year to the next?
 
Perhaps there were multiple versions of the announcement, and
Canadians got a different one, but I certainly do not see what
Sterling Beckwith is talking about when he says the Oberlin
announcement was not open to the issues he seems to want to
raise.  "What should be included in such courses?" is explicitly
listed as a topic, as are "directly related" questions and any
"substantive discussion of the issues surrounding the teaching of
courses on computers and the humanities."  It would take casuistry
worthy of Ignatius Loyola to say that this call for papers
excludes the issues raised by Sterling Beckwith.
 
I will note in closing that Joe Raben deserves better than to be
accused implicitly of not being a "real humanist."  It would
disappoint me to hear this discussion continue on that kind of
note.
 
  Michael Sperberg-McQueen
  University of Illinois / Chicago
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Date:         27 July 1987, 20:42:40 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
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From:         Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
 
The following observation on the latest bit of discussion was sent to me
privately. I've removed the name of the sender so as not to offend a
good friend and pass it on to you for your amusement.
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Humanist is fascinating!  I had no idea people could get
so worked up over a call for papers.  As far as I can
tell, conference topics seem to follow a sort of cyclic
movement in any given field: they're all very similar for a
few years, then what's "in" changes, and a new cycle starts.
In medieval studies lately it's been women, monks, or mysticism
or a combination of the above.
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Date:         27 July 1987, 21:02:25 EDT
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Subject:      Call for Papers: RIAO 88
 
 
                      CALL FOR PAPERS
                           RIAO 88
 
                 USER-ORIENTED CONTENT-BASED
                   TEXT AND IMAGE HANDLING
 
           Massachusetts Institute of Technology
                       Cambridge, MA
                     March 21-24, 1988
 
                         Conference
                        organized by:
 
     Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (CNRS)
 
  Centre National de Recherche des Telecommunications (CNET)
 
        Institut National de Recherche en Informatique
                    et Automatique (INRIA)
 
        Ecole Nationale Superieure des Mines de Paris
 
    Centre de Hautes Etudes Internationales d'Informatique
                     Documentaires (CID)
 
              US participating organizations:
 
   American Federation of Information Processing Societies
                            (AFIPS)
 
       American Society for Information Science (ASIS)
 
            Information Industry Association (IIA)
 
 
    This conference is prepared under the direction of:
                Professor  Andre Lichnerowicz
            de l'Academie des Sciences de Paris
                            and
                  Professor  Jacques Arsac
     correspondant de l'Academie des Sciences de Paris
 
     RIAO: Recherche d'Informations Assistee par Ordinateur
 
 A GENERAL INTRODUCTION:
     RIAO 88 is being held to demonstrate the state of the art in
information  retrieval,  a  domain  that is  in  rapid  evolution
because  of developments in the technology for machine control of
full-text  and image databases.  This evolution is stimulated  by
the demands of end-users generated by the recent availability  of
CD-ROM   full  text  publishing  and  general  public  access  to
information data bases.
     A group of French organizations has taken the initiative  of
preparing  this conference.  Its wish in promoting this forum  is
not  only to stimulate and challenge researchers from all nations
but also to increase an awareness of European technology.
     This "call for papers" is beeing distributed world-wide.  We
want  to reach individuals in the research communities throughout
the university and industrial sectors.
     The conference will be held in Cambridge,  MA.  We hope that
it   will  encourage  the  exchange  of  European  and   American
viewpoints,  and  establish new links between research  teams  in
United-states and Europe.
 
                       CALL FOR PAPERS
 
       General theme
 
          Full-text  and  mixed media database  systems  are
characterized  by  the  fact  that  the  structure  of   the
information is not known a priori.
          This   prevents  advance  knowledge  of  the  types  of
questions  that  will be asked,  unlike the  situation  found  in
hierarchical and relational database management systems.
          You  are  invited  to submit a paper  showing  how  the
situation can be dealt with. Special attention will be given to:
              - techniques   designed to reduce  imprecision
                in full-text  database searching;
              - data entry and control;
              - "friendly" end-user interfaces.
              - new media
          A large number of specific subjects can be treated
within this general framework.  Some suggestions are made in
the following section.
 
       Specific themes
      A)  Linguistic  processing and interrogation  of  full
text databases:
          - automatic indexing,
          - machine generated summaries,
          - natural language queries,
          - computer-aided translation,
          - multilingual interfaces.
      B)  Automatic thesaurus construction,
      C) Expert system techniques for retrieving information
in  full-text  and multimedia databases:
          - expert  systems  reasoning on open-ended domains
          - expert   systems  simulating   librarians   accessing
            pertinent information.
       D)  Friendly user interfaces to classical information
retrieval systems.
       E) Specialized machines and system architectures designed
for  treating  full-text data,  including managing and  accessing
widely distributed databases.
      F)  Automatic  database construction  scanning  techniques,
optical character readers, output document preparation, etc...
      G)    New  applications   and  perspectives  suggested   by
emerging new technologies:
              - optical storage techniques  (videodisk,
                CD-ROM, CD-I, Digital Optical Disks);
              - integrated  text,  sound and image retrieval
                systems;
              - electronic mail and document delivery  based
                on content;
              - voice  processing technologies for  database
                construction;
              - production    of    intelligent     tutoring
                systems;
              - hypertext, hypermedia.
 
       Conditions for participation
          The  program  committee is looking  for  communications
geared toward practical applications.  Papers which have not been
validated by a working model, a prototype or a simulation, or for
which a realization of such a model seems currently unlikely, may
be refused.
         Authors  must  submit a paper of about 10 pages  doubled
spaced, and a 100 word abstract.
          Four  copies must be sent before October 30 to  one  of
these two addresses:
-  RIAO 88, Conference Service Office, MIT, Bldg 7, Room 111
            CAMBRIDGE, MA 02139
-  RIAO 88, CID, 36 bis rue Ballu, 75009 PARIS  FRANCE
 
          Each  presentation will last 20 minutes followed by  10
minutes of discussion and questions.
 
          Arrangement  have  been  made  with  the  international
journal  "Information  Processing and Management" for  publishing
expanded versions of some papers.
          High quality audiovisual techniques should be used
when presenting the paper.
          Separate  demonstration sessions can be  scheduled
if requested.
 
       Particular attention will be paid to :
              - the  use  of  readily  available  equipment   for
                demonstrations  (IBM PC,  APPLE,  network connec-
                tions...);
              - pre-recorded video or floppy disk displays.
       Hardcopy  printouts of results should be  avoided  if
possible.
          English is the working language of the conference.
 
For further information call:
in North America  : Karen Daifuku,
                    tel: (202) 944 62 52
in other countries: Secretariat General du CID in France,
                    tel: (1) 42 85 04 75
 
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                     PROGRAM COMMITTEE
 
    French co-chairman                US co-chairman
   Prof. Christian FLUHR            Dr. Donald WALKER
 Universite Paris XI/INSTN     BELL Communications Research
 
J.C. Bassano (F) Universite d'Orleans
A. Bookstein (USA) University of Chicago
J. Bing (N) Norwegian research Center for Comp. and law
E. Black (USA) T.J. Watson IBM Research Center
C. Boitet (F) Universite de Grenoble
J. Boucher (CAN) Universite de Montreal
C. Chen (USA) Simmons College
Y. Choueka (Israel) Bar-Ilan University
C. Ciampi (I) Instituto per la Doc. jiuridica
X. Dalloz (F) Centre National de la Cinematographie
T. Doszkocs (USA) National Library of Medecine
E. Fox (USA) Virginia Polytechnic Institute
E. Garcia Camarero (SP) Universitad Complutense de Madrid
C. Goldstein (USA) National Library of Medecine
G. Grefenstette (F) Universite de Tours
H. Hjerppe (S) University of Link%oping
D. Kayser (F) Universite Paris XIII
P. Kirstein (UK) University College of London
R. Marcus (USA) Massachusetts Institute of Technology
P. Mordini (F) Ecole des Mines de Paris
C. D. Paice (UK) University of Lancaster
A. S. Pollitt (UK) The Polytechnic Queensgate Uddersfield
F. Rabitti (I) Instituto dei Elabor. della Informazione
J. Rohmer (F) Bull, Louveciennes
G. Sabah (F) LIMSI(CNRS) Orsay
T. Saracevic (USA) Rutgers University
W. Turner (F) CDST (CNRS) Paris
H. J. Schneider (FRG) Technische Universit%at Berlin
C. Schwartz (FRG) Siemens M%unchen
 
assisted by a Technical and an Organisation Committee.
 
 
                                             APPLICATION FORM
 
NAME:...........................................................................
...................
 
TITLE/POSITION:.................................................................
...................
 
ORGANIZATION:...................................................................
...................
 
ADDRESS:........................................................................
...................
 
CITY:................................STATE:............................ZIP:.....
...................
 
COUNTRY:........................................................................
...................
 
I plan to attend the conference, please send me the program:  YES  NO
 
I plan to present a paper:  YES  NO
 
Conference theme (circle one): A B C D E F G
 
Title of the communication:
 
 
 
Are you willing to present a demonstration of your prototype?
YES  NO
 
Equipment needed:
 
Please mail this form before Septembre 15, 1987 to:
RIAO 88
Conference Service Office
MIT
Bldg 7, Room 111
CAMBRIDGE, MA
02139 USA
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Date:         27 July 1987, 21:07:18 EDT
Reply-To:     Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@UTOREPAS>
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Subject:      Call for Participation: Hypertext 87 & ACM SIGIR
 
 
                          HYPERTEXT 87
            WORKSHOP ON SYSTEMS, APPLICATIONS, AND ISSUES
 
                       November 13-15, 1987
                   Chapel Hill, North Carolina
 
     Sponsored by ACM, IEEE, U. of North Carolina, ONR, MCC, NSF
 
 
Hypertext is an approach to information management in which data is
stored in a network of nodes connected by links.  Nodes can contain
text, source code, graphics, audio, video, or other forms of data, and
are meant to be viewed and manipulated interactively.  Hypertext
systems support collaboration and cooperation among users in a wide
varieties of activities, ranging from medical instruction to software
development.
 
Hypertext has come of age.  An increasing number of hypertext systems
and applications have been built and used within the last few years.
This Workshop will be the first opportunity for implementors,
application builders, and users of hypertext systems to come together
to share information and ideas.
 
Suggested Topics
 
The workshop will focus equally on implementations of hypertext
systems, applications of hypertext, and issues surrounding the use of
hypertext.  Possible topics for papers include, but are not limited
to, the following:
 
Implementations and technical issues
    - abstract machines and base engines
    - complete systems
    - user interfaces
    - multi-media support
        - distributed systems
        - query and search
    - storage management
Applications and experiences
    - Computer-aided engineering (CASE, CAEE, ...)
    - Authoring and technical documentation
    - Medical and legal information management
    - Electronic encyclopedias
    - Interactive tools for education and museums
    - Information analysis and knowledge acquisition
    - Scholar's workbenches for the humanties and social sciences
Issues surrounding use of hypertext
    - Cognitive aspects of using and designing hypertext systems
    - Strategies for effective use of hypertext
    - Supporting collaborative work
    - Managing complexity in large information networks
    - Legal issues (copyrights, royalties, ...)
    - Social implications
 
 
Information for participants:
 
Papers are invited for presentation at the Workshop and subsequent
publication in proceedings.  Papers should be limited to 20 pages, and
5 copies should be submitted to the following address:
        Hypertext 87
        Department of Computer Science
        University of North Carolina
        Chapel Hill, NC  27514
 
Attendance at the workshop will be limited.  Prospective participants
not submitting a paper should submit a brief (1-2 page) position paper
describing their activities or interests in hypertext.
 
Important dates:
 
 8/1/87   Submission of papers (Both position papers and presentations)
 9/15/87  Notice of acceptance for full papers
 9/15/87   Notice of admission to the Workshop
 10/5/87  Camera-ready copy of papers for preprints
 
Planing Committee:
 
  Frank Halasz, MCC, (Workshop Co-chair)
  Mayer Schwartz, Tektronix, (Program Co-chair)
  John B. Smith, UNC, (Workshop Co-chair)
  Nicole Yankelovich, Brown Univ. (Publications Chair)
 
Local Arrangements Committee:
 
  David V. Beard, UNC, (Arrangements Chair)
  James M. Coggins, UNC, (Workshop Manager)
  Leigh Pittman, (Workshop Coordinator),
 
Program Committee:
 
  Mayer Schwartz, Tektronix, Program Co-chair
  Stephen F. Weiss, UNC, Program Co-chair
  Greg Crane, Harvard University
  Norman Delisle, Tektronix
  Mark Frisse, Washington Univ. Med. School
  Frank Halasz, MCC
  David Lowe, NYU
  Norm Meyrowitz, Brown Univ.
  Theodore Nelson, Project Xanadu
  Walter Scacchi, USC
  John B. Smith, UNC
  Lucy Suchman, Xerox Parc
  Randy Trigg, Xerox PARC
  Andries van Dam, Brown Univ.
  Stephen A. Weyer, Apple Computer
  Nicole Yankelovich, Brown Univ.
 
For more information contact:
 
John B. Smith, 919-962-5021, jbs@cs.unc.edu
Frank Halasz, 512-338-3648, halasz@mcc,   seismo!ut-sally!im4u!milano!halasz
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 87 01:03 EDT
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Subject:      Off to Oberlin, or ONe Man's Discipline is Another's Pornography
 
 
Here is the best commentary I could find on the now-famous Oberlin
Proclamation.
 
Strangely enough, my trusty humanistic computer counted few if any instances of
the words "answers", "consensus", or "humanities student" in this parallel
(but oh so interesting) proposal by our transatlantic cousins.  And perhaps,
where diachronic change and synchronic diversity of viewpoint or style in
such matters are themselves seen as fit subjects for humanistic discussion,
there might be less need for defensiveness about who is or is not a "true"
believer.
 
Other, better qualified students of comparative literature or computer
linguistics will no doubt find further textual comparison of the two "calls"
edifying, even if they choose to ignore the lingering echoes of Last Year
at Poughkeepsie...
 
                   ---------------
       PRELIMINARY ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS
 
CATH   88:   Computers   and   Teaching  in  the  Humanities:
Re-defining the Humanities?
 
Following  on  the  highly successful conference on Computers
and  Teaching in the Humanities (CATH 87) held at Southampton
in  April  1987, a second conference is planned to take place
on  13, 14 and  15  December  1988.   The emphasis will be on
academic issues related to the introduction of computing into
academic courses in the humanities in higher education.
 
The  main part of the conference will be devoted to workshops
and  seminar  sessions.  There will also be opportunities for
informal demonstrations and poster sessions.
 
The  conference  will  focus  on  the  interface  between the
computer  and Humanities disciplines.  To what extent are the
traditional  assumptions and methods of each discipline being
either supported or challenged by the use of new technologies
in  higher  education?   The computer may facilitate existing
methods,  making our practice more effective.  Alternatively,
the   computer  may  be  changing  our  conceptions  about  a
discipline,  pointing  to new theoretical models and new ways
of  teaching.   In some Humanities departments there is now a
tension between established and computer-based methods.  Does
such a tension mark the coming birth of new, technology-based
Humanities  subjects?    If so, what are the implications for
the  traditional  commitments  of teachers in the Humanities?
Will  the  relationship between research and teaching change,
and if so, in what ways?  And how will students in the future
acquire the values and methods appropriate to their subjects?
 
These,  and  related  issues,  will  be  examined in workshop
sessions  on  specific  fields,  such  as  English  or Music,
assessing the extent to which these disciplines are changing,
or are likely to change under the impact of new technologies.
Other   sessions   will  examine  themes  common  to  several
disciplines,  such  as  the  shift  in  learning methods, the
potential   of   expert   system   methods  for  mapping  the
theoretical  constructs  of  Humanities  subjects, the use of
simulation  as  a teaching tool, and so on.  In addition, the
conference  will  analyse  the  political  and  institutional
context  for  new  developments in the Humanities, looking at
policies   for   supporting   and   funding  computer-related
teaching.
 
The  workshop  and seminar sessions, which will form the main
part  of  the  conference  will  focus  on  the discussion of
educational  issues,  rather  than  detailed  descriptions of
courses,  or  particular computer-based tools.  There will be
opportunities   for  discussing  or  demonstrating  these  in
separate, parallel sessions.
 
Proposals  are  invited  for  contributions  to  the workshop
sessions.    Abstracts of about 500 words should be sent, NOT
LATER THAN 15 JANUARY 1988, to
 
Dr May Katzen
Office for Humanities Communication
University of Leicester
LEICESTER
LE1 7RH
 
These  proposals will be considered by a Programme Committee,
who  will  notify  the  outcome to those involved by 15 April
1988, and plan a detailed programme accordingly.  A selection
will  be  made  from  the  abstracts submitted to provide the
basis  of  a forthcoming book on the theme of the conference,
and  invitations to contribute chapters will be issued by the
Editorial Board.
 
Proposals for demonstrations and poster sessions will also be
welcomed  and  should  be sent to the address above by 15 May
1988.
 
Anyone  wishing  to  be  put  on  the mailing list for future
information    should    also    write   to   that   address.
 
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Date:         28-JUL-1987 11:05:55
Reply-To:     A_BODDINGTON%UK.AC.OPEN.ACS.VAX@AC.UK
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From:         A_BODDINGTON%UK.AC.OPEN.ACS.VAX@AC.UK
 
                    ATTITUDES TO HUMANITIES
 
The York circular on COMPUTING FOR THE HUMANITIES raises a number of
important issues. It seems astonishing that we still seem to be in a
position where a department in a major University needs to make
special efforts to justify provision of specialist services for the
humanities. Do I also understand from Sarah Rees Jones message that
York has only scientists in its Computing Service?  Is this typical?
(Here we have 2 advisers with computing science backgrounds, 2
archaeologists and 1 geographer).
 
Here we do not provide special services for the humanities.  We
consider all our customers equal and attempt to provide the best
possible facilities for all disciplines. It is not of concern to us
whether someone is a historian or nuclear physicist, only that they
need advice.  Clearly the fact that our advisers are drawn from a
range of disciplines benefits our users, though we are far from able
to satisfy every customer due to a combination of limited knowledge
and limited resources.
 
The anti-humanities computing attitude which is found in some
computing services is an archaic hangover from the days when computers
only did 'hard sums' and the humanities only pontificated 'woolly
concepts'. It remains a suprise that such attitudes remain as the real
expansion area today is in the humanities and not the science areas.
If computing services want more cash (beyond the conventional
'procurement' cycle) they need to show a broader range of demand.
Long gone are the days when 'overwork' created new posts, now it is
neccessary to expand into new areas and add even further to the
workload to gain further finance. Hence they should be looking
constantly to new markets, and this obviously (to us) includes the
humanities.
 
Regardless of the new horizons, cash is very hard to get.  If there is
a need at a university to designate a specialist adviser then the post
will probably have to come from the existing staff complement.  I dont
think that we need feel embarassed about redirecting resources in this
way but clearly the case must be constructed well.
 
I think it would be of use to all of us to find out how many
institutions provide specialist support. To repeat (almost) question
(1) of Sarah Rees Jones message, does your university provide a
'humanities adviser' or a lectureship in 'humanities computing'?
 
If we find that such provision is very rare then York can argue that
they will be 'blazing a new and exciting trail', if it is commonplace
then York can argue that their service is not providing the standard
of facilities available elsewhere!
 
Andy Boddington
Academic Computing Service
Open University
Milton Keynes
U.K.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 87 11:05:13 EDT
Reply-To:     "Timothy W. Seid" <ST401742@BROWNVM>
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From:         "Timothy W. Seid" <ST401742@BROWNVM>
Subject:      reading online c&h
 
I am a recent member and have been reading "old" mail trying to catch
up with the conversation.
One discussion was about using some texts which were online for a class.
The suggestion was made that they should be printed out.  Does this
bother anyone else?  It seems that if texts are put online and then
just printed out to be read then we have wasted a lot of time, effort, and
money.  Computers would then just be a substitute for the mail or
publishers and book stores.  There's something to be said for that, but
I still think we need to implement the texts which we have online and not
just print them out.
As one who has never taken a formal course in computers nor has ever done
well in Mathematics, I am excited about the discussions introduced (I
think) by Nancy Ide.  I dropped out of a course in BASIC because the Math
teacher who taught it gave us assignments in probability (how many boxes
of cereal would you have to buy to get all seven of the toys offered).
I've learned REXX (anybody else use this?) and am now studying PASCAL.
As soon as I get to the bookstore I will order Nancy's book on Pascal for
the Humanities.
A friend spoke to a group of Classicists at a meeting in California and
told them that Classicists shouldn't have to know how to program, that it
should be left to Programmers.  They strongly disagreed.  They probably
reflect the few in every discipline that bridge the gap between computer
science and their own field.  Similarly, some are more trained in social
anthropology than the rest of us, but we all need to use the methods in
historical research.  I think the problem is one of bridging the gap.
Maybe some day there won't be a gap.  That will be the responsibility of
the next generation whom we will help educate.
