I  agree that the way the descriptive information in some of the new ND elements
is handled may need more thought, but I don't think the use of <desc> is that
abusive. But I havent had the chance to see the argument -- is the paper you
referenced available online anywhere? 


n message <486B8E72.7000302@kcl.ac.uk> "Ciula, Arianna"
<arianna.ciula@kcl.ac.uk> writes:
> Trying again...
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: abuse of <desc>
> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:08:10 +0100
> From: Arianna Ciula <arianna.ciula@kcl.ac.uk>
> To: TEI Council <tei-council@lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
> References: <4868E77D.6050705@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
> 
> There is actually one mistake (or possibly more than that and therefore
> something we cannot tackle right now) that has been reported by the
> following paper at the DH conference in Finland last week:
> Øyvind Eide and Christian-Emil Ore, 'TEI and cultural heritage
> ontologies', paper presented at the Digital Humanities conference 2008.
> 
> If you look at the definition of <desc>:
> '(description) contains a brief description of the intended usage,
> purpose, or application of its parent element.'
> 
> it is evident that to use it to contain a description in a much broader
> sense than the one above is actually abuse. And we do this especially
> with elements that use model.labelLike. See for instance the <event
> type="marriage" when="1859-04-26"> or the first <org> example or the new
> climate example more evidently than others in the ND chapter.
> 
> Øyvind and Christian -together with other things- proposed the
> introduction of a new more generic element called <description>. I I
> suppose it is wiser to wait for a more formal proposal from them and the
> SIG ontologies, so we can't deal with this right now, but thought I
> pointed this out to the rest of the council that wasn't at DH.
> 
> Arianna
> 
> Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
> > I'm proposing to make the release on 4th July (well, maybe 5th), so if
> > anyone knows of mistakes so far uncorrected, now is the time
> > to squeak
> > 
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