In message <479F6ECB.8090501@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Sebastian Rahtz > You _could_ organize your family into > > > > ... > ... > > > ... > > > > what would be the problem with that? > the fact that Marge would also occur > in the Bouvier family? And if Bart was there as well? How would I say Marge and Bart were 'the simpsons' in question attending an event? Pointing to two separate people from the persName just seems to make more sense. Whatever solution I chose I thought I should raise the issue in case we had missed something specific. -James